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    Caravans and Better Payloads

    Having had a change of plans (got older) and sold the old greyhound coach RV, which could not only pull a combined trailer, junk and D2 mass of 4.5 tonnes, but also 1000 plus litres of water and my miscellaneious tools and toys, I'm starting to cull my collections of "I must take that" to cater for what will legally fit (weightwise) in a caravan for extended trips.
    From my limited to date research it appears that not many caravans (offroad or otherwise) cater for those who want to live in their vans for longer periods and want to take some of their lifestyle items with them. Not only are heavy considerations like extra water (clean and grey/black) for extended free camping limited, but the potential to carry heavier tools and playthings (dingies, outboards, motorbikes etc) appears to be quite restricted.
    Anyone know of caravan manufacturers who make provision for better payloads, even at the expense of less space and item luxuries? Apart from the occasionally advertised 2 room versions where you roll in your quads or dirt bikes for a quick weekend away, I can't believe no-one has addressed this market niche!!
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    Bushtraker will accommodate heavier weights but don't think they will lessen the lux side.

    They have been known to make up to 4.5 ton vans. They are heavy empty however

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    Honestly it sounds like a 5th wheeler would be more down the line you are after. You can get dual cab or single cab utes that can tow them, and in some cases they actually weight less that the caravans.

    Add in the advantages of the weight being right above the rear axle, and you can set up a base camp and still have the advantage of a good 4WD and it's hard to understand why they aren't more popular.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cewilson View Post
    Honestly it sounds like a 5th wheeler would be more down the line you are after. You can get dual cab or single cab utes that can tow them, and in some cases they actually weight less that the caravans.

    Add in the advantages of the weight being right above the rear axle, and you can set up a base camp and still have the advantage of a good 4WD and it's hard to understand why they aren't more popular.


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    Good idea - SWAMBO likes them, but pretty hard to move with a D2a!
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    True that!


    Although a dual cab conversion would look great

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    Quote Originally Posted by cewilson View Post
    True that!


    Although a dual cab conversion would look great
    Only problem with the dual cab/ute idea is the turntable / 5th whhel needs to be forward of the rear axle - not that much room to comply in a D2!!
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    Seems like you've got yourself a conundrum then. Let us know how you get on with it.


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    Most 5th wheelers are too heavy for the majority of utes we have in this country although you see lots of them. The type being suggested here should actually be towed by something not less than a Ford F250, Dodge Ram, NPR Isuzu or Mitsubishi Canter etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gavinwibrow View Post
    Only problem with the dual cab/ute idea is the turntable / 5th whhel needs to be forward of the rear axle - not that much room to comply in a D2!!
    Actually the hitch for a Fifth wheeler needs to be behind the axle, not in front of it.

    If you are seriously considering a Fifth wheeler check out PUMA RV's their vans are made to Australian spec (most others are to wide if they have an awning fitted) and theirs tow pretty well with a Navara etc. Their boxes aren't that long compared to many others, how the make up the space is with massive slide outs.

    The other thing is they are very reasonably priced from what I have seen compared to many others sold here.

    They also sell some pretty impressive Slide on's as well.

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    If you want long term living then nothing smaller than 21' would suit.

    You want a van with a tare around 2500kg with GTM of 3500kg factor in 300lt of water and you are down to 700kg of payload. You still have another 50kg in gas and toilet water to account for as well.

    This is doable from the right caravan builder but you have to be very clear on what you want up front. Stick with the smaller specialist builders as these guys will build what you want and you tend to deal direct with the factory. Going via dealer on special build will only cause pain because dealers are bloody idiots who are only interested up to the time they get paid.

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