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    Design and build a camper trailer - novice

    After recently purchasing an AWESOME D90, then trying to fit anything in the back other than your lunch I've realised that I'm going to want a camper trailer of some form. I could just tow the box trailer and throw everything in there! BUT that's a bit simple and things will get dusty and it's not much of an improvement over using the old ute. So the idea came to me that I could make a slide on for the box trailer. You know the basic set up - slide out kitchen, slide out fridge, solar panel, battery, water tank, storage for cooking stuff and food with the roof top tent on top. Easy. But the empty trailer is close on 400kgs, it's on 16 falcon tyres and it's got a wider track than the D90. So it'd be HEAVY by the time I stick on a slide on and add camping gear and water/fuel/beer.

    I like the look of the Xtrail XMT/A1 trailer as well as the AT adventure trailer. Very similar ideas and simple! Both are too short for my tent! I have a Maggiolina Airtop which measures 2100x1450x300. yes I could just stick it on the D90 but the idea is to move it to the trailer so I can unhook and go for a drive without packing up camp!

    So here is my question:

    HELP! no wait that's a statement.... :P

    Ok really what i'm looking for is experience and knowledge, drawings, photos, ideas, suppliers of cool stuff, anything I can't think of because I havn't done this before.

    Would it be better (yes I know some of you will cringe here) to start with an old army trailer - maybe a No5? take the box off and use that for the chassis? I don't want fancy pretty boy independent susspension, I just want a solid axle with a leaf under it - simple reliable effective! I also want to match the wheels to the Defender - so I can use the spare wherever in an emergency.

    Key points for me are:

    - Tent must remain below car roof line
    - Water tank
    - battery
    - sink
    - uses coleman cooker that I already have
    - simple
    - dustproof
    - reasonably light - under 750kg loaded would be good (was thinking it'd need brakes for safety anyway)
    - tows well
    - fridge
    - awning
    - tough - don't want it to fall apart, and yes I realise that this is a contradiction to the light statement.
    - Solar panel - if I can afford one.

    I'm certain that I've forgotten plenty of stuff but that's why I'm throwing this out there - any ideas would be appreciated.

    Thanks

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    What's your budget??

    I built one using a 130 tub.....my RTT was also a little long but it seems to fit OK. I had an axle build so that I could bolt on defender stubs and hubs....plenty of spares if need, it will soon have defender calipers

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    Budget... yes... well.... $0. Seriously though. This is going to be a project, bits at a time sort of thing so I can gradually buy bits as I need them/can afford them. I would prefer it to take longer to build because I spend a little more on quality rather than quick and crap.

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    Thanks for that link weeds, i've already had a squiz at your build! I've been looking around at the site a bit but it's sometimes hard to find just what you want.

    I don't realy want to go down the "bolt a tray on a chassis" track... I feel it'd lead to the whole hinged lid bit and I"m not keen on that because once you put up the tent you can't get in the trailer. I'd prefer side access.

    One thought that had crossed my mind was to use a series tub and cut it up to make it open wherever I want and really only LOOK like a series tub in the end.... maybe that train of thought needs more work....

    could use a roof for the lid too!

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    Here's some ideas.

    If you were starting with an old Army trailer, I wouldn't go No5 or Workshop. No brakes.
    You're probably going to load up the trailer. It will easily go over 750kg.
    I would expect the Haulmarks have brakes and possibly the Cooks. I know the Tracks do.
    Track have a nice civvy one available but don't look at the price.


    I wanted something similar so I bought an ex-RAAF Track. All I did was put some drawers in it and bolted a camper top on it.



    The camper top was bigger than I wanted but it was the only one I could find with a 1.2m drop.
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    so after a few discussions with people about design etc here is a sketch-up of my current thoughts. because of my lack of cad style drawing skills(also lack of really caring about having every detail drawn) there are a few surfaces and framework missing - I have an idea of what framework I will use....


    So what you see there is the front right corner. To try to make sense of my drawing I shall try to explain.... remember the front and side sheeting is missing...
    - front has a slide out draw for fridge/esky (can't afford a fridge yet but going to make it compatible)
    - right side front door (swings forward) is a battery compartment - battery on floor with fuses, dual battery system (charge from car), inverter and solar power plug/controller (when I can afford it) + other electrical bits

    moving towar rear is a storage compartment (door opens up)
    rear is another storage compartment (door upwards) between 2 storage compartments is a couple of rungs - ladder style to access the tent! saves carrying the ladder for the tent (crossed fingers)



    This is the kitchen side.... roll out awning
    The lift up legs will be on the other side too, just too lazy to draw themon.

    so at the front there are shelves for the cooker
    middle is shelves/draws not sure yet....
    rear is a built in sink on the "bench" that is actually the side of the box that folds down. in the cavity where the sink folds into there will also be power for the tent (light) plus external light and 240V (when i get money for the inverter) plus light switches for fixed lights all around the trailer.
    the rear of the box has the lift up door (again the sheeting is missing from the rear) this area will be general storage for long /heavy things.

    Under the kitchen there will be a water tank. Under the right hand side storage areas there will be a diesel tank with transfer pump. Weight distribution has been a bit of a concern for me... so I think I will lean towards wasting a little space to get the tanks over the axle rather than having too much weight at the front of the trailer.

    I was thinking as far a solar goes I will just get some of those roll out panels and when I stop plug them in then lay them ontop of the tent before opening.

    Should mention that I'm going to have the awning on "telescopic" mounts - 25mm RHS main supports in the box will have a 20mm RHS inserted that can slide up and down with pins to lock at the height I want.

    Can anyone think of any problems with my design? suggestions?

    wow this must be my longest post ever....

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    no comments. I'll take that as a complement

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    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    no comments. I'll take that as a complement
    Looking good. I think Ranga's utetop version (currently still for sale?) is one of the simplest and best designs/concepts I have ever seen. If I have a wee win in Lotto, I'll be over in a flash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by debruiser View Post
    no comments. I'll take that as a complement
    Looks like it's lower than the Defender? Realistically you want it at the same height (chassis height) or even higher if you intend it to follow where the 90 will go. Looks good though

    Also think about departure angles and all that if you want to take it off road, do you?

    Cheers
    Will

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