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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    I had planned on 1800 but that will exceed the length for a non registered trailer (3m total inc drawbar) , i know reg is cheap but didint want the hassle.
    Forgot about "cheap" box trailer rego in Vic. 1200 it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    I had planned on 1800 but that will exceed the length for a non registered trailer (3m total inc drawbar) , i know reg is cheap but didint want the hassle.
    To qualify as an exempt trailer in Vic, it has to meet a few criteria.

    - not be over 3 metres in length.
    - not have a gross weight over 750Kg.
    - not be wider than the towing vehicle
    - not be used for commercial purposes
    - not be used to tow a boat

    My tiny little Sankey has to be registered because it has a gross weight of 1200Kg. If your trailer is going to be over 750Kg, then it needs brakes as well as reg.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    To qualify as an exempt trailer in Vic, it has to meet a few criteria.

    - not be over 3 metres in length.
    - not have a gross weight over 750Kg.
    - not be wider than the towing vehicle
    - not be used for commercial purposes
    - not be used to tow a boat

    My tiny little Sankey has to be registered because it has a gross weight of 1200Kg. If your trailer is going to be over 750Kg, then it needs brakes as well as reg.
    Yeah its just a general 6x4 so well under weight/ size if i keep the drawbar 1200mm which i only just checked after my initial post so i sorta answered my own Q .
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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    I had planned on 1800 but that will exceed the length for a non registered trailer (3m total inc drawbar) , i know reg is cheap but didint want the hassle.
    Forget about the length bit ... no-one knows this stuff and it's highly unlikely it'll ever be checked. Everyone knows a 6x4 doesn't need to be registered though .... My father has owned a box trailer that was outside all of the measurements by several inches in every direction... so required registration... It looked like a 6 x 4.... we would have used it for 25years with not a single problem from police/anyone without registering it.

    I have 3 trailers at my place, a car trailer, 9 x 5 box trailer with high sides... and a 6 x 4 that's not registered. The unregistered trailer is an absolute PITA. I have 4 club permit cars and 1 fully registered one.... That's 5 numberplates I need for it ..... Then we have family and mates that borrow the trailers .......... It's worth the $50bux a year for registration not to have the hassle of tyring to make a numberplate to match the cars everytime it leave the yard.

    Everyone tends to just use the 9x5, it's not easy to move around liek the 6 x 4, but it's just less hassle 'cos you can just hook it on and go.

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    IMO 1200 should be fine. Your Land Rover is around 1800/1850 wide... So when its at 90deg to the trailer (ie jackknifed) you want to know the body will clear the trailer body... Working on that approx 1000mm demo front board to ball center would be you're min... Assuming you have a 50 x 50 RHS chassis under the trailer, you then have two options as to where to weld the drawbar on. Option 1 is welding it to the front spring hangers, r option two is to make the drawbar lengths longer and weld them above where the axle u bolts sit... The drawbar ends then act as bump stops, and because the drawbar is longer overall, the 'triangle' formed out front is narrower... Better for jack knifing etc... All up to personal preference really..

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    I thought about just making it 1600mm thinking that no one would even question it but in the end i made it about 1250mm as this worked well with the pickup points for attachment.
    Maybe a number plate painted with blackboard paint and a piece of chalk on a string for a DIY number .
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    something to keep in mind. if its over dimension and you don't have it registered, in the unlikely event of a car accident, your insurance company will be the first to measure the trailer. if they can get out of paying a claim, they sure will.


    for 50 odd bucks, I even register my small trailers. small price to pay for peace of mind.


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    I eventually registered my little 5x3 trailer as I sometimes take it interstate. Remember, as soon as you take it over the border, it becomes an unregistered trailer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I eventually registered my little 5x3 trailer as I sometimes take it interstate. Remember, as soon as you take it over the border, it becomes an unregistered trailer.
    Good point Mick - my little Sankey has been interstate a few times now, and that is another reason it is registered. The NSW Police have zero tolerance for Vics with unregistered trailers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    Good point Mick - my little Sankey has been interstate a few times now, and that is another reason it is registered. The NSW Police have zero tolerance for Vics with unregistered trailers.
    I towed a home-made trailer made out of half of a car all over NSW without a single query .... It just wore the cars numberplate I must have been pretty lucky, 'cos I saw and was breatho'd by countless police (this was about 5years ago, when you could go years without seeing a single marked police car in Victoria, so it was quite a surprise to see them everywhere .... by the bloody dozens in NSW).

    If it's attached to a Victorian car, it should be considered a part of the victorian vehicle towing it.

    These different laws for each state are ridiculous. As for having a crash towing a 6 x 4..... Has anyone ever heard of an insurance company measuring a weeny little 6 x 4 trailer. Now if it was a masssive caravan that is obviously waaayyy to big for the tow capacity of the car ... yeah... but c'mon... a weeny little 6 x 4 ... there not much better than a slightly larger wheel barrow.

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    5 second google search:

    ROAD TRANSPORT (VEHICLE REGISTRATION) REGULATION 2007 - SCHEDULE 1

    11 Trailers towed by motor vehicles registered in Victoria

    The registration provisions do not apply to any trailer (other than a trailer used to carry a boat) that:

    (a) is being towed by a motor vehicle that is registered in Victoria, and
    (b) is exempt from registration in Victoria, and
    (c) is not used in the course of trade, and
    (d) weighs less than 200 kilograms unladen, and
    (e) has a manufactured width that does not exceed the width of the vehicle towing the trailer, and
    (f) is of a length (including the draw bar and any load) that does not exceed 3 metres, and
    (g) if it obscures the number-plate of that motor vehicle-displays (whether by painting or otherwise) on its rear the registration number of the vehicle so that the number is clearly distinguishable at a distance of 20 metres from the rear.
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    You guys are worrying about nothing. ie: if your unregistered trailer is towed by a victorian registered car .... Your fine in NSW.

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