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I've used them in the past and continue to use them. I have vehicles that went throught he roadworthy and registration process with them. You'll have to back that statement up for me to believe it. As I said, the ADR's are not retrospective.Quote:
Originally Posted by pop058
Bear in mind I have vehicles that do not require seat belts.
I know some boars and sows that would take offence at that statement! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pop058
It is a matter of interpretation but the Safe Towing Guide states;Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh
"The safety chains must be properly connected to the tow bar with attachments capable of withstanding the specified breaking load of each chain."
I admit it does not specifically say you cannot use pigtails, but I cannot see them standing up to a 3500 kg trailer coming adrift. I might investigate that one a little more.
It's not regulation, only a guide! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by pop058
Nothing there to really get I a twist about. My little Sankey meets all those requirements. I made sure it was 100% before I took it up to Glenreagh last year.
It's all well and good having a document like this, but should there be some form of licensing for people that tow around huge 3+ tonne caravans without having a clue on how to safely do it or how it effects the towing vehicle...?
A bit of homework and I found this ADR.Quote:
Originally Posted by V8Ian
Standards/Australian Design Rules for Vehicles as amended, taking into account amendments up to Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 62/01 – Mechanical Connections Between Vehicles) 2006 Amendment 1
13.4. ‘Towbars’ Safety Chain Attachment Requirements
13.4.1. For vehicles other than those designed for use in ‘Road Trains’ , the ‘Towbar’ must be fitted with two safety chain attachments, of strength meeting the requirements of clause 13.4.2, mounted one on either side of, and adjacent to, the tow ‘Coupling’.
No hooking both chains on the one connection point.
13.4.2. Each safety chain attachment provided on the ‘Towbar’ must withstand the following forces without either any residual deformation that may interfere with or degrade the function of the assembly or any breaks, cracks, or separation of components:
13.4.2.1. longitudinal tension(N) = 9.81 x ‘Towbar’s’ rated capacity(Kg); and
13.4.2.2. Vertical load (N) = 0.5 x 9.81 x ‘Towbar’s’ rated capacity (Kg).
A bit more than some mild steel pigtails can handle I would imagine.
13.4.3. ‘Towbar’ safety chain attachments must be fixed to a part of the ‘Towbar’ which is permanently attached to the vehicle.
Not attached to the removable tongue/hitch.
13.4.3.1. Means of permanent attachment include at least either welding or bolting.
I was collecting a car for a mate today with my trailer & was told that the local (Sydney) police are having a blitz on trailer shackles.
Apparently, it has the be a yellow shackle securing the safety chain to the towing vehicle or you get a $200 odd on the spot fine.
I assume 'yellow' shackles are a code for a certain rating but a quick Google search doesn't show up anything specific. I've found a bit of chit chat on other fora but nothing that has a definite answer.
Has anyone in NSW come across this before?
What date is on that, Paul?
2007 IIRC
18/7/2007
Thanks Paul. This bit is the important bit
This tells me that it is from the third edition ADR's. These ADR's generally apply to vehicles manufactured after July 1988. You have to look at the specific ADR to see when it applies from.Quote:
Standards/Australian Design Rules for Vehicles as amended, taking into account amendments up to Vehicle Standard (Australian Design Rule 62/01 – Mechanical Connections Between Vehicles) 2006 Amendment 1
Generally speaking vehicles manufactured up to July 1989, the second edition ADR's apply.
In short, all my vehicles except for my 1990 Perentie and my 1994 Commodore can have pigtails as the third edition ADR's do not apply. All my other vehicles are pre 1988.
With my trailers, the third edition ADR's apply to the two Tracks and the tandem car trailer. All the other trailers are pre 1988.