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    OF COURSE IT CAN BE DONE.
    in 2002 we travelled in a convoy of 6 vehicles at the height of the drought when the sand was softest. the trip leader had made a camper trailer that was very well designed for off road but was really heavy, he was in a 200tdi disco and had done the trip many times without a trailer as a tour leader. another towed a cavalier camper with a new playdoh, he was not very experienced but we figure that this wouldn't be a problem since 4 of the drivers in the group had 15 to 20 yrs 4wd experienc under their belts.
    we went from east to west, the first obstacle, big red, was too much for the disco and being a clever bloke, he saw the rest of us up, then turned around to take the warbuton track and meet us at the knolls 2 days later, we weren't leaderless however as his off sider was in our group in a 130. maybe 10-15 times on soft dunes over the next 2 days we had to recover the guy with the trailer, once we got onto the harder clay capped tracks they were fine though.
    after 1 or 2, maybe up to 5 recoveries we were enjoying the challenge and adventure, butthis started to wear thin when we were falling way behind schedule.
    it didn't help that this clown wouldn't listen to advice either, but that aside it really tasted everyone's patience after a while and could have got a lot worse had we not all been reasonable sane.
    my advice is that if you can whittle your gear down so that you don't need a trailer, then don't take a trailer. its nice to be comfortable when you camp but you are on a desert trip in one of the most harsh landscapes on the planet.
    food, water and fuel is all you need, everything else is ballast and expendable. pack in order of importance for survival.
    water, food, fuel, warm things for night, recovery gear (cook on shovel)
    have a good trip.

    this ute of mine was carrying 220L of petrol,60L of water, 40L engel, esky, food and cooking gear (2 weeks supply) swag, camera gear, clothes and recovery gear. as the petrol in the tank was used, it was transferred from the jerrys in the tray, and the empties were them moved to the top of the rack to keep the weight low
    LAND ROVER;
    HELPING PUT OIL BACK IN THE GROUND FOR 70 YEARS
    CARS DON'T GET ANY "GREENER" THAT.

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    Originally posted by barney


    this ute of mine was carrying 220L of petrol,60L of water, 40L engel, esky, food and cooking gear (2 weeks supply) swag, camera gear, clothes and recovery gear. as the petrol in the tank was used, it was transferred from the jerrys in the tray, and the empties were them moved to the top of the rack to keep the weight low
    Yeah but try fitting all of that in a disco with 3 people on board 8O

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    i know what you mean.
    but like i said, "it can be done" it has the potential to not only sully an otherwise magical trip but depending on your travelling companions, could test your friendship aswell.
    one good idea would be to make sure that the trailer can be attached to any of the vehicles, with our trip, every one of the non-towing vehicles was unable to attach the heavy trailer to it for one reason or another. he had a treg hitch on it attached to a hayman-reece style bar, but it was not standard dimentions and wouldn't fit the other recievers and my towball was welded on, which was frustrationg because mine was the only one that sailed over all of the dunes. (the only petrol V8 in the group)
    LAND ROVER;
    HELPING PUT OIL BACK IN THE GROUND FOR 70 YEARS
    CARS DON'T GET ANY "GREENER" THAT.

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    point taken, and if your going to lug it, dont expect anyone to help you or waste their time dragging you out of the poop always.

    in other words be prepared to be self sufficient and if not then you shouldn't be taking it.

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    i know we should all have the all for one, one for all attitude in a situation like this. but when you are with people day in day out that you only see occasionally, small traits of their personalities emerge and it's unfortunate but true that when you really want them to help you out, is when they'll let you down the most (it's all proportional).
    four weeks of this and we learned to just walk away for a while and have some "me" time. it worked really well for the whole trip.
    LAND ROVER;
    HELPING PUT OIL BACK IN THE GROUND FOR 70 YEARS
    CARS DON'T GET ANY "GREENER" THAT.

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    Originally posted by seqfisho+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(seqfisho)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-barney


    this ute of mine was carrying 220L of petrol,60L of water, 40L engel, esky, food and cooking gear (2 weeks supply) swag, camera gear, clothes and recovery gear. as the petrol in the tank was used, it was transferred from the jerrys in the tray, and the empties were them moved to the top of the rack to keep the weight low
    Yeah but try fitting all of that in a disco with 3 people on board 8O[/b][/quote]
    We managed to fit everything we needed including 260l of fuel, 110 of water, a 40l engel, and everything else we needed in our defender on our simpson trip. We were totally packed though We now have a roof rack and pod, and I think next time we'll be comfortable

    As to the trailer, with my limited experience I think the answer is depends . When we were there it had rained recently, and the French line was easy going. A crippled FWD playdo had no trouble. We even saw a subaru outback towing a camper trailer on his own!.

    So, if you have conditions like we did the French track with a trailer would be doable. We spent most of our time off defined tracks. In these 8 days I can only remember getting past second low on a handfull of occasions. There is no way known I would attempt a trip like this with a trailer.

    However, people I trust have been there numerous times tell me that the sand was really easy when we were there with all the rain. They tell me that when it's really dry it can be a nightmare. I think if you hit it with a trailer when it's bad you'll look at a tent and say that the small loss in comfort easily offset the pain you felt during the day.

    This is IMHO
     2005 Defender 110 

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    Hey all,

    Just wanted to say great thread and wonderful to read some of you travelling/ camping experiences, it just make me chomp on the bit to get out ( soon hopefully) and have some of my own experiences,

    Regards

    Stevo

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