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    You guys are operating under the assumption the people that build these vans have some form of actual Engineering training...

    they have sales training,,

    they build the "Front page of Home Beautiful" van, then literally slide the van along on top of the purchased axle setup until there is around 10 percent on the ball, then attach.

    its defineatly NOT rocket science....
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    I have seen plenty of big vans being towed by F250's and Dodge RAM's and I would argue that these vehicles would do a better a d safer job of towing these vans than a little DMax, Hilux or Amroc will.
    To hell with the advertised towing capacity spouted by car salesmen , Sone trucks May be able to tow a 3.5t van But you have to ask yourself how long would a mid sized SUV last doing this and how would they shape up if things went pear shaped on the track/road..
    When I bought our van I got rid of a perfectly good Hilux dual cab and replaced it with a V8 79 series ute because even though the Hilux was "rated" to be able to tow the van it was seriously underguned and underweight for the job.
    How do I come up with this finding? I have towed the van with both the Hilux and the 79 series and the 79 series is quantum leaps in front of the little Hilux as far as towing the van is concerned.
    Also the V8 with the fat exhaust on the 79 series sounds WAY cooler than the little 24D 4cyl in th hilux
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    I have seen plenty of big vans being towed by F250's and Dodge RAM's and I would argue that these vehicles would do a better a d safer job of towing these vans than a little DMax, Hilux or Amroc will.
    To hell with the advertised towing capacity spouted by car salesmen , Sone trucks May be able to tow a 3.5t van But you have to ask yourself how long would a mid sized SUV last doing this and how would they shape up if things went pear shaped on the track/road..
    When I bought our van I got rid of a perfectly good Hilux dual cab and replaced it with a V8 79 series ute because even though the Hilux was "rated" to be able to tow the van it was seriously underguned and underweight for the job.
    How do I come up with this finding? I have towed the van with both the Hilux and the 79 series and the 79 series is quantum leaps in front of the little Hilux as far as towing the van is concerned.
    Also the V8 with the fat exhaust on the 79 series sounds WAY cooler than the little 24D 4cyl in th hilux
    Yep. More opinion. And, as I have previously said, you are quite entitled to it.
    I also have an opinion. It differs to yours and is also just as valid as yours.
    Oh, and as I have previously mentioned, my opinion means jack ****.

    What does have weight is manufacturers ratings and legislated rules.

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    It's really a matter of horses for courses, A manufacturer can rate a vehicle to tow 3.5t with a 350kg towball rating But will it do the job well?
    Also these ratings are with the vehicle unloaded, What happens to these "ratings" when you load up all the crap we all like to take with us on trips?
    A bigger, heavier, more powerful vehicle will always out perform the lighter less powerful vehicle when used as a tow tug and in most cases they will also outlast the smaller trucks because they are not being pushed to their limits.
    A Clydesdale and a Shetland poney are both rated at 1 horse power, which would you choose to pull a heavey buggy??
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    A Clydesdale and a Shetland poney are both rated at 1 horse power, which would you choose to pull a heavey buggy??
    I see what you are saying. It's all about power. If I install a 6 litre 500hp turbo diesel in my Camry, I can tow a 3.5t behemoth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I see what you are saying. It's all about power. If I install a 6 litre 500hp turbo diesel in my Camry, I can tow a 3.5t behemoth.
    No, what you would have is a hotrod not a towing tug
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I see what you are saying. It's all about power. If I install a 6 litre 500hp turbo diesel in my Camry, I can tow a 3.5t behemoth.
    No. Australian Camrys (2018 models, at least) are rated to tow 500kg (unbraked), or 1200kg braked for the 4 cylinder, and 1500kg braked for the V6. Info from Toyota Camry 2018 review | CarsGuide

    Doesn't matter what you do to the driveline, those are the maximum figures, as set by the manufacturer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    No. Australian Camrys (2018 models, at least) are rated to tow 500kg (unbraked), or 1200kg braked for the 4 cylinder, and 1500kg braked for the V6. Info from Toyota Camry 2018 review | CarsGuide

    Doesn't matter what you do to the driveline, those are the maximum figures, as set by the manufacturer.
    I totally agree with you. The manufacturer has rate my Camry to tow 1200kg braked. To tow more, I would have to get it engineered for a greater towing capacity.
    And the D-Max is rated to tow 3.5t braked.
    Opinions mean jack ****.

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    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    Hopefully, this one works

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    Ok it doesn't,,, Fill in the blanks and have a good laugh anyway
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