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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_35 View Post
    Both Multimeter and Test lights
    It all depends on what your testing
    Absolutely, having both is good. I bought a ducky little device called a "SXE Probe" (logic tester) which does both voltage and test light functions, and also frequency and duty cycle which is great for injectors and stuff. Wouldn't be without any of my tools.

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    Thread maintenance and torquing.

    as in accordance with RTFM and general cleanlyness thread cleaning is an important thing as it enables correct torquing... Speaking of correct torquing.

    Theres a lot of bolts and a lot of ways to do them up some of them are seemingly quite large bolts with reasonabley low values. Others are quite large with respectabley HUGE torque values. The first type you just to up with a torque wrench and you can reuse them almost as many times as you like the second you get to do up one time and one time only. This type of bolt is normally a torque to yield fastener and it achieves its maximum tension just before it goes all marshmellowy then snaps.

    before you start to torque a bolt you need to check the following things.

    1. Thread type. Is it the same, theres a lot of different thread forms and sizes out there some of them are close enough to work together but arent.
    2. Thread condition. is the thread useable, damaged, contaminated
    3. Grade. Is it the right grade for the job? putting to high a grade bolt in can have just a bad result as too low a grade.
    4. Material. Is the fastner your about to use the correct material for the job. Did you just put a stainless steel nut onto an aluminium bolt?
    5. Lock and Lube. Before you put it in do you need oil, loctite, spring washer,nyloc?
    6. Torque Scale. Am I doing it up to inch pound, foot pound, Newton Meters, Kilogram meters Grams/Centimeter or something even more obscure? If you're using the rattle gun dont forget that rattlepascles are different to doogameters.

    Once youve got all that done you can have a go at putting it together. Use the correct tool for the job, Tight then belt it with a hammer or rolling it up till the rattlegun stops is an excelent way to produce this, a variable pitch form thread that starts out with a 1.5mm pitch and heads into 1.75mm.

    Heres the normal thread, this is where the thread was engaged into the fastner so it couldnt stretch.

    lead thread1-50.jpg

    heres the bit where the thread didnt make it into the casting and being the weakest bit of the bolt this is where the initial stretching began. Much more torque and this bolt would have let go.

    thread stretched1-75.jpg

    and here it is in side profile on the thread gauge thats part of my thread file.

    thread change.jpg

    If you're lucky a snapped off bolt just means an extra hour or so worth of inconvenience as you battle whats left out with the easy outs, drill outs and any other means you can think off. Worst case you melt down a handfull of grands worth of engine. If the manual specifies a torque, use a torque wrench and be sure that its in calibration. If the manual says to just do it up then you're supposed to do it up to the standard torque for the diameter fixing and thread form. These are easy to look up on the net and are avialable at a small cost from professional fixing suppliers and no, just because supercheap and autobahn sell blister boxes with nuts and bolts in them they are not professional suppliers.
    Dave

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    Angle torquing.

    Ok so assuming youve got all the above sorted and have a decent calibrated torque wrench to start with, how do you do angle torquing without a torque angle gauge.

    For starters you dont use the torque wrench, once the initial torquing is done put it back in its box some where safe and break out the big breaker bar your scribe and your paint pen.

    for startes your average bolt is 6 sided and your average socket is 12 sided which means you have 30 degree offsets easily positioned ready to use. all you need is a little prep work

    boltpaint.jpg
    paint the area around the bolt and put a marker point on the bolt
    scribe paint.jpg
    Scribe the paint inline with a point of the bolt the scribe mark on this one is way too wide but its only to demo the concept usually you make a skinny mark.
    paintsocket.jpg
    paint the socket and place it on the fixture up against the existing paint, rotate it firmly in the direction of tighten so that there is no slack between the head and the socket
    scribe socket.jpg
    Scribe mark the socket exactly in line with your existing scribe mark
    offsetsocket.jpg
    Remove and rotate the socket the required number of points to get your required torque angle (this image shows 30 degrees)
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
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    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


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    and once youve turned it all so that the scribe marks line up again you're done for that phase of tightening. (this images shows a 60 degree rotation)
    doneturn.jpg

    Heres a sketch of how it all works out since the photos were a bit blurry.

    angles up.jpg

    Remember the key to angle torquing is as it is with all torquings.
    Slowly
    Smoothly
    in Stages
    in Sequence

    If you yank it around or it starts to jerk and bind you increase the risk of damage and incorrect setting, if you crank down one bolt all the way to its maximum tension you can warp/misalign the casing or plate you're working on and the sequence is pretty much the same reason.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
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    And when you've snapped it off-


    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    skip bunnings goto a decent tool shop, they will sell an easyout set with left hand twist drills, about 90% of the time the left hand twist drill will get it out.

    if that doesnt get it the easyout will.

    If the easyout wont you need to look at a thing called a rigid stud extractor (looks like a hex key with 6 knife edges on the points)

    if that wont get it you need a device called a drill out.

    IF that doesnt shift it go and buy the helicoil kit for the side bolt you snapped drill it out, tap it, insert the helicoil with some loctite 567, wait about 2 hours for that to setup then wind the bolt in with another smear of 567 on it.

    best of luck.

    http://www.aulro.com/afvb/wa-aulroia...olt-block.html

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