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    New Cylinder Head

    I am on the way to finally doing the head gasket and few other bits, was just wondering... when you do a head gasket normally when you take the push rods out you keep them aside marked so that you put them in in the same way you took them out.

    seeing as i have a new turner permormance head and wont be using the old head, do i need new push rods? can i keep the old ones and do i still have to put them in the same way? or do i have to set all the spring/tappets accordingly? i thought the new heads were just bolt on and forget is that correct? just want to make sure before i go any further.

    also, i have new studs for the injector retaining plates, should i locktite the studs to the head? or do i give light oil coating? the studs should remaing in the head shouldnt they? and the nut comes off?

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    assuming you inspect the old rods and there is no damage to the cup or ball of the pushrod you got it all correct.


    I use loctite 272 on the head side of the injector clamp studs.
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    another issue i have come across. there seems to be a fair bit of corrosion in my cooling system. i pulled the top hoses off and both ends of the metal pipe which runs over the head were corroded under the hose. also the two steel bits at the firewall which go to the heater matrix are very corroded. one of them had bits break off when i took the hose away.

    any suggestions? can i sand back the corrosion and put rust proofing on it or is it much more serious. the heater matrix seems fine. think it was changed a bit before i bought it. seems in good condition and the floor doesnt have rust. the pipe over the head seems fixable. the two at the firewall im more worried about. also the cooling system in general? will i need much more involvment? most other parts are fairly clean and coolant was pretty clean. i do admit though probably has been too long since ive done coolant change. i will be taking radiator out completely to get it cleaned but im worried theres rot right through.

    i have new water pump, viscous, all new hoses, new head, new expansion tank, new thermostat housing. which is all going on now as i do the work. is this going to be good enough to help the new head live a long life?

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    might bypass the heater matrix for the time being. dont have time to do all that part as well. summer starting so wont be a problem for a while. i will bypass the heater and plug up the pipes going to behind the dash. the rest of system a bit easier to clean and flush etc. plus with all the new bits shouldnt have too much crud left.

    will slowly start to remove the heater pipes in the dash eventually and pull out heater core to get good look at it. i can do this though and still keep the car on the road if i bypass it. got guests coming in 2 weeks and dont have time to do it now.

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    Don't be afraid of putting up info on how you disconnected the heater. I live in Darwin, so removing that connection and keeping the water circulating internally sounds good to me.

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    to bypass the heater matrix,run a loop of hose from the outlet on the back of the head back to the return pipe.

    for the return pipe, yet you can wire flay it back and then fill it and sand back, I usually use araldite, let it fully cure and then sand it to shape.

    yes, all your preventative maintenance on the cooling system will be beneficial for your head having a long life, Id also suggest while you're doing all that that you do the thermostat or at least pull it and check it as well as doing the vacutator valve on the bleeder system thats down near the expansion tank. It might be worth considering the exapansion tank and cap as well.
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    got a fair bit done last night. basically pulled everything off ready for the head bolts. took me bout 3 hours. surprised how easy it is.

    few pics. doesnt look too healthy. i hope the block is ok. i flushed it before i started this and water coming out seemed clean. guess will know when i take head off.

    i have new thermostat as well and header tank. the cap on the tank is still fairly new so will keep it.

    radiator will come out and go get checked out and cleaned out. looks in fairly good condition and never had major issues with heat so expect it to be ok.

    just worried bout all the rust etc. didnt expect this. few pics of the grime i found. the insides of things look cleanish though. just round the edges its bad.
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    heater matrix pipes. pipe at back of head didnt look too healthy either.

    sean p basically what blknight was saying is you loop a hose from that stub shown on this pic at the back of head, to the back of the long metal pipe that runs along the head. basically the two hose ends which go onto those firewall connections shown on my other pic. instead of joining them to the stubs at firewall, you join the hose ends together. so it loops back around and bypasses the heater matrix. but easier to get short loop of pipe and join the two ends at back of engine.
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    Would taking the heater matrix out of the loop cool the system that much?

    I would have thought that the heater matrix would help cool if anything, seem just a little radiator?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy93 View Post
    Would taking the heater matrix out of the loop cool the system that much?

    I would have thought that the heater matrix would help cool if anything, seem just a little radiator?
    not sure bout heating/cooling effect the bypass does. the main reason people bypass it i think , is that the matrix is prone to leaking and a real pain to get to, so people just bypass it.

    in my case is because as you can see in the pics the pipes coming out from cabin to firewall are just about dust and i dont want to connect anything from my cooling system to them. as i stated i do not have the time to change all the pipes and pull matrix out for proper inspection. so i am just bypassing it for now until i have time later down the track. barely use the heater in perth anyway. and it never got that hot before either.

    as long as rest of cooling system is good, and water galleries nice and clean then it should cool properly. i think the matrix part would make very little difference. water is always running though it even when heater is off. in the disco there are just flaps which redirect air through matrix if you want heat. the matrix is always hot though.

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