D3 Diesel Front Timing Cover Explosion

[BusinessConnected]

I agree... being that the cost of a Territory Diesel is around 50-60% of a Land Rover TDV6, it opens up a lot of options if it's suitable.

[Ean Austral]

I recall seeing a post on the UK site that gave the vin range of the oil pump casing in question. The reason I remember it was cause mine fell like 20 inside the range. ;(

Best of luck with the engine.

Cheers Ean

[Fatso]

Hi Businesconnected , Any update with your project or outcome of original problem ?? , would be good to follow up , Thanks.

[BusinessConnected]

Hi Everyone,
I thought I'd post an update for you all.
Car is at my Mechanic in Werribee now, Ford Territory Engine has arrived and the "dissembly" has begun...

Initial impressions:
1) The Wiring Loom between the Territory and Discovery 3 is different, 2 x Connectors look the Same, one is completely different...

2) We've pulled out Front Differential etc and we're going to try and get the Engine Out without Removing the Body... we'll see how we go.

3) Sump is definitely different and looks like it will need to be changed with the Sump from the Original Engine.

I ended up getting a Complete Ford Engine from a Vehicle with 18,000km on it.. Complete with Air Con Compressor and Alternator etc for $3500.

[101RRS]

It is easier lifting the body - is designed for that - probably easier than pulling the front diff etc out to get at the engine with access issues.

Garry

[BusinessConnected]

Garry:
I agree... but my Mechanic is sort of looking at this as a potential "Future Enterprise" so going to see which way is quicker going forward..

Hopefully this process will allow for a "cheaper" Engine Replacement for people going forward.

When you factor in getting a Near New Alternator, Air Con Compressor, Diesel Fuel Pump, Timing Belt, EGR Valves etc... $3500 is actually a steal....

[~Rich~]

Garry:
I agree... but my Mechanic is sort of looking at this as a potential "Future Enterprise" so going to see which way is quicker going forward..

Hopefully this process will allow for a "cheaper" Engine Replacement for people going forward.

When you factor in getting a Near New Alternator, Air Con Compressor, Diesel Fuel Pump, Timing Belt, EGR Valves etc... $3500 is actually a steal....

Yes exactly, those ancillaries are worth more than what you paid for the engine!!

I have a question though, if say donor Territory is a recent model and you have an early D3 which could have the EGR valves blanked without any annoying error messages will this still be the case once the latter engine is transplanted?
I'm just wondering if it is software only the issue?

Best of Luck with this transplant, it may be the way to go in the future.

[BusinessConnected]

I don't really know for certain... But I think its a Software Issue more than anything else because of the Euro IV Compliance.

In any event this is a 2008 Truck which had the EGR's Blanked... and had a Check Engine Light.

[Rich84]

Garry:
I agree... but my Mechanic is sort of looking at this as a potential "Future Enterprise" so going to see which way is quicker going forward..

Hopefully this process will allow for a "cheaper" Engine Replacement for people going forward.

When you factor in getting a Near New Alternator, Air Con Compressor, Diesel Fuel Pump, Timing Belt, EGR Valves etc... $3500 is actually a steal....

You're dead right about that being a steal - any different parts you could easily sell on fleabay too.

[BusinessConnected]

The Beast Lives!!!!

I'll try and post a more detailed explanation later, however I thought I'd update this thread to say that Yes... a Territory Engine is in my Discovery 3, Running... No Errors on the Dash... Everything working as expected.

"Cliff Notes Version"
Engine Removal
- Old Engine Confirmed Ill (Rotating Crank by Hand isn't possible)
- Old Engine Out of Car without Removing Body
(Bonnet at Vertical, Gearbox Dropped Down to Improve Egress Angle, Front Diff Removed)
- Electrics/Cabling/End Connections are different on Discovery to Territory
(Appears Connectors at ECU End are a Sort of "Ford" Standard)

Things that need to change/come off old Engine
- Sump from D3 (Ford One has Whole through it)
- Radiator Fan Pulley
(Territory has Electric Fan... D3 has Viscous Fan... Territory has an Idler Pulley in same place as Fan Pulley.. can be swapped but....
- Plastic Timing Belt Cover
(Territory one would leave a Inch or so Gap around Radiator Fan Pulley.. whch is too much of a risk for me)
- 2 x Knock Sensors from Land Rover Engine
(Territory has the Wholes for them.. but not fitted)
- Power Steering Pump
(Territory has Electric Steering.. No Hydraulic so this needs to be added)
- Alternator/AC Compressor/Pulleys etc
(This is because Territory has 6 Fin Belts rather than 8 Fin Belts (due to not having to drive the VC Fan and Power Steering Pump)

Every Connector on the Wiring Loom from the D3 Engine fits the Territory Engine... No Sensors were needed to be swapped over etc.. My D3 is a Euro IV Spec 2008 Model... so this might not be exactly the same for a Earlier Model.. but I'm pretty certain it would be.