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    D3 Diesel Front Timing Cover Explosion

    So the Wife's D3 Diesel has suffered a lovely Timing Belt Front Cover Explosion... I'm actually holding a Timing Belt Idler Pulley in my hand right now... which has ripped itself from the Engine as part of destruction.

    No Oil Level Warnings, No Errors.. Car just advised it had a Low Voltage as it sat by the side of the road with no Power.

    So I'm assuming that where it has Pulled itself from the Engine Block is actually part of the "cast" so I assume I need a New Motor.

    I guess at this stage the usual questions are advised...
    1) Will a Ford Territory Motor Diesel Fit?
    2) What's the best source for a New Motor?

    I'll post some pictures of the remnants soon....

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    Well BusinessConnected, my engine woes led me to explore a similar path.

    You may find that the Ford Territory does indeed fit however my own checking revealed the following:

    1. The Ford engine was a LOT cheaper.

    2. The Ford engine warranty would not extend to use in a Disco 3.

    3. Land Rover would fit the Ford engine but would not warrant it either.

    In the end I opted for a complete (not really) engine fitted by an independent LR enthusiast organisation. Saved heaps on the quote that LR dealers 'offered' but still purchased new bits including a turbo and other ancillaries. My alternator was only 7 months old after having been replaced so was used. Yours may be fine.

    In Melbourne there will be LR independents (that others from this forum would recommend from personal experience) so that would be my first port of call. They would supply the lot including engine and needed bits and more than likely offer a discount on parts due to the sheer size of the project. BTW, if you don't already realise, it's a body off job.

    My total cost was $21 410 but that cost included an opportune upgrade to the latest EAS compressor as I feared it would be the next item to fail inexplicably.

    If you go the brand new engine route you may consider the total cost and weigh that up against the market value of your vehicle. I chose to proceed based on the fact that I love the ride, comfort and capability of the D3 and that with the new engine I should get at least another 7 years of enjoyable motoring...

    HTH in your decision-making process.

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    I wonder if the Territory spec motor is a stock Jaguar unit without the D3 off-road improvements to the mojo????.
    I own a Territory AWD there is no way it would go where a D3 would.Mine has the XR6 Turbo motor.
    Andrew
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    BusinessConnected it sounds like you have the classic oil pump housing failure (that timing belt pulley forms part of that housing).

    Doesn't really help you, other than put a name to it.

    Yes, it means a toasted engine.

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    There is a TDV6 on eBay.

    [ame]http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/251557117759[/ame]
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    I saw that TDV6 on Ebay... No Warranties implied or otherwise... bit wary of that to be honest..


    I did like the idea of the Twin Turbo V8 Diesel instead... How do I make it work in the LR3

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    How about this one:
    TDV6 LONG ENGINE - Specials - Triumph Rover Spares South Australia
    Says $11950 complete or $9900 bare.

    Good luck with the replacement.

    Cheers,
    Rob

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    Probably more likely to go down that path than $6600 on a Used Motor...
    However may look at more creative options as well.

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    When my TDV6 was replaced with a brand new long engine about three years ago, which by the way was purchased directly from LR, the independent workshop purchased it for (from my failing memory) about $7,800 all up. A long engine doesn't come with injectors or water pump or any other bolt on ancillaries but is pretty much other than that complete including glow plugs.

    To get it at that cost they had to order it as a stock part which meant it took just over a week to get there, if it was ordered as a normal part then it was about another $700 more expensive and arrived within a couple of days. Again from memory the RRP of a long engine was about $12,500.

    What ever you do replace all the hoses and pulleys when they fit the engine as all of mine needed replacing one by one within six months and cost a fortune in labour to fit.

    With hindsight I would have also had new injectors fitted at the same time. While the new engine and labour at the time cost me nothing because the workshop had originally stuffed my old engine they did say they could have done the job all up for around $13,000. Just remember one thing most workshops get the engines for a much cheaper price than what they supply it to you for, they get margin on the parts and then also charge labour.

    Regarding warranty it's not that good, it was only 12 months which is better than nothing, but not much.

    The trick is to negotiate the deal before letting anyone pull it apart, once your pride and joy is sitting in parts in their workshop your pretty much at their mercy. Ask for a cost on the labour content to fit a new engine first and then haggle over the engine cost. This should give you a bit of a yard stick on what to negotiate the job for, good luck with it.
    Cheers,
    Terry

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    Quote Originally Posted by BusinessConnected View Post

    ........... However may look at more creative options as well.
    This creative?
    [ame="http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Range-Rover-2011-V8-4-4L-Super-Diesel-Twin-Turbo-Engine-Range-Rover-4-4-/141176966784?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item 20decd8e80"]Range Rover 2011 V8 4 4L Super Diesel Twin Turbo Engine Range Rover 4 4 | eBay[/ame]
    Ian
    D3 with extras

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