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    TD5 EGT Probe Installation

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    I've done my searching, but still I'm unsure about where is best to locate the probe. The consensus of opinion seems to be upstream of the turbo in the manifold. Strangy http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...nitor-but.html seems to have a tidy spot. Is this best?? Any other ideas/suggestions. Looks like I'd need to remove the turbo to get rid of any swarf from drilling and tapping.

    Have just been for a run up to Mt Glorious as a bit of a test, following Tombie's upgrade and very impressed with the result.

    Though after pushing it hard up some steep hills I sorta imagined I could smell something hotter than usual (perhaps my imagination)

    However I intend towing a 2 T trailer and don't want to cook anything, hence my decision to install an EGT gauge to keep an eye on things.

    Cheers

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    EGT Temperatures after re-mapping

    I've got a 2004 Extreme which has been Tombie re-mapped. Best thing I ever did!

    However, I've been amazed at how easy it is to exceed what my research on this forum has led me to set as a maximum EGT. That is, 680 degrees celsius.

    I now watch my EGT gauge like a hawk and back off as soon as I get close to 680 degrees. Any long uphill climb with an open throttle will do it, even if not heavily loaded. For example, the climb from the Mooney Mooney Creek bridge on the F3 going south.

    My advice is to lay off the lead foot until you get your EGT gauge fitted. Otherwise you're going to do expensive damage.

    As to fitting the EGT probe, I found a very good description on this forum and if I can recall where I found it I'll post again.
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    Since chipping Im reading HIGH coolant temps under full load,wich equates to what you are saying.
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    Pyrometer location

    [QUOTE=Rosco;1257357]OK

    I've done my searching, but still I'm unsure about where is best to locate the probe. The consensus of opinion seems to be upstream of the turbo in the manifold. Strangy http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...nitor-but.html seems to have a tidy spot. Is this best?? Any other ideas/suggestions. Looks like I'd need to remove the turbo to get rid of any swarf from drilling and tapping.

    have a look at this link it seems to agree with Strangys location.
    I agree you would need to remove the turbo to drill & tap the hole.

    Pyrometer | Pyrometers | Hewitt Industries | Huntington Beach, CA | Ph: 714-891-9300



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    EGT probe location and fitting

    The easiest and IMO the best place to fit the EGT probe is where the EGR system takes exhaust gasses for recirculation.

    Contact The Entertainer (on this forum) as he provides EGR removal kits with the option of a drilled exhaust manifold plate to take an EGT probe.

    Also, check out a post by Bush65 on fitting the probe. Low EGT temps?

    It's very important that the EGT probe sits right in the middle of the hot gas stream. If it doesn't you will get false (low) readings.
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    FYI,
    ive had the pyro in both locations, in the egr port at the front of the manifold and now in the center of the manifold as per pic above, my readings were identical between the two locations.

    and i did a stock ecu map run with the d2 loaded with the trailer on and i couldnt for the life of me get the egt's above 750deg it was a struggle to get them there. also with the playing around ive found that if the egt's are kept high the coolant temps will go up but marginaly, im talking holding 750deg+ for over a minute you may see 102-107deg in coolant temps.
    the heat soak from the high egt's wont make the coolant temps rocket up as fast as some think.

    cheers phil

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    Have a read on thermoguard website.

    They give a heap of very useful info as to what/where and why.
    They supply EGT gauges also and have a Disco themselfes.

    I bought mine from them and its all good.

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    OK

    I've ordered the bits and decided upstream of the turbo seems to be the best location.

    So ... for those who've been there and done that .........

    Q1. Is there a gasket between the turbo and exhaust manifold that would need replacing when I take them apart??

    Q2. Can I remove the turbo and leave the oil line connected. If not, is there an O ring or similar I would need to replace.

    Q3. What's the consensus on upper temp limit that should not be exceeded? The figure of 750 deg C seems to crop up.

    I want to have all the necessary bits to hand when I start the job.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by discowhite View Post
    FYI,
    ive had the pyro in both locations, in the egr port at the front of the manifold and now in the center of the manifold as per pic above, my readings were identical between the two locations.
    I go along with discowhite on this. Both spots are going to give very similar if not the same readings. In any case, at the temperatures involved 5 or 10 degrees difference will not matter.

    Q1. As the blanking plate is a much easier install that's the place I put it. When I fitted mine I used a gasket.

    Q2. Doesn't apply if fitting in the EGR port.

    Q3. I settled on 680 degrees Celsius after much scouring of this forum. Maybe a little conservative but much cheaper than destroying my engine.
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    OK

    After all my trials and tribulations over the weekend, it's almost all back together. I've yet to connect up the wiring to the gauge.

    I decided to stick with the probe through the EGR blanking plate (from The Entertainer )

    But ... in an endeavour to get a more accurate reading I've gone with a probe 150mm long, bent slightly to more or less follow a line down the centre of the manifold. Being of that length it almost reaches to outlet point and being inline with the gas flow (rather than perpendicular) I hope won't create any significant obstruction.

    I bought the kit from Auber Instruments but on arrival decided the probe supplied was not suitable, so ended up getting another locally. Turns out I could have got the lot from them if I'd done my homework in the first place .. .

    A word of warning ... the stainless braid sheath over the probe wires conducts electricity very well .. .

    When routing it around the engine bay if happened to come into contact with the business part of a circuit breaker. I wasn't aware until I started to feed it through the firewall ... before I'd inserted the grommet .... .. sparks galore for a milli-second.

    On a final note, what's the consensus of opinion on an upper end recommended max temperature? Perhaps around 650*C ??

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