Thread: No reusing stakenuts Hmmkay.....

for those following you know that Ive just done a fairly major alt major service on big red... and made noises about not reusing stake nuts as some nufty ford dealer had done.

I had to do it to get the vehicle mobile... and IVe done maybe 100ks on it and was planning to check it today.. On the way to work I noticed it was a bit wierd in the font end and Id lost a lot of brake reserve. the reason its done 100ks is casue I like to double check my work after a run in period (IF i cant then I'll tell you what to check or to bring it to me or call me back after you do the prescribed distance/time)

Kinda glad I did... 8mm of deflection at the rim

On the side i needed to reuse the stakenut ID also reused the old bearings with the view to replace them on this check as I didn have enough of the double lock nuts.

When I pulled it down I found this img129.jpg (edit sorry bout the pic quality was a phone pic taken by someone else) and the stake nut had unwound 2 full turns and this was on the drivers side where the normal direction of rotation would in theory tighten the nut.... just to add insult the little bit that decided it no longer wanted to be harmonious with the larger scheme of things had managed to work its way under the washer between the nut and the bearing. wouldnt that have been fun if it had gone unnoticed.

So quick whip off of the hub rattle in some new bearings (greasing them properly of course) a new seal slip em all back together and fit up a new pair of locknuts and tab washer.


Stakenuts are aluminium and they fracture real easy.... so they'll take one bending ok but if by chance you happen to have to bend the same spot guess what happens to the locking bit.


No reusing stakenuts Hmmmkay.

Proviso:- (AKA the bush emergancy butchery way out)

If I was in the middle of nowhere and had no other option I would do so but Id make damn sure that I had the nut positioned so as to be peening a fresh bit of the edge if that ment I had to preload the bearings instead of achieving a 0 play 0 preload position or I had to put in extra spacing washers so be it And you can bet Id be on the phone getting new washers, tabs and nuts to the nearest place I could make it happen.

sorry mate as it was all with the original stuff the original bearings with the spacer with the big washer and the stakenut went back on and cranked up to 150nm as indicated by the book I got past the point where it was previously (so ford might not have gone to 150nm) and wound up just shy of the original staking

however on the otherside where i went to double nutting with a loc washer with new bearings that spacer got the big bye bye the part numbers for my stub axle, and the bearings are the same as the mil ones... carefull measurement of the hub as compared to a mil one are within 2/5 of naff all which in my book means that excluding the machining tolerances they are one and the same.

Mil ones havent ever had a spacer, on all the series, the original defer and the D1 never had em so now that big red is on double nuts like a mil one its going to mil spec on the bearings. Just cause new age appies cant drive a torque wrench and dial torque indicator to get preloads right..... which leads me to interesting point #1 about the spacer.

How the hell are you ment to on the side of the road in the middle of buttfartnowhere replace the bearings in a hub and adjust the spacer? carry a DTI the whole 20 differnt spacers and a torque wrench that can do 150nm? (ok so I happen to carry said torque wrench)

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Not ment to be a pers shot at you Jon. the whole point of the post origianally was to point out to anyone that was thinking of reusing stake nuts
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