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    More snake oil?

    At one stage for work I was catching a large passenger cat to a Sandy Island everyday,, The owners decided to spend around Ten thousand dollars (on each of 5 boats) to add "Fuel Ionisation"

    apparently diesel fuel flows better when all the little molecules are facing the same direction.


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    can anyone say 'Polariser' ?!

    There's lots and lots of stuff claiming to do things like that, but I've never seen any credible data to back it up.

    You'd really need engines on a test bed so that conditions are controlled and do back to back multiple tests. I wouldn't believe before and after fuel consumption figures in the real world, far too many variables involved.

    Let's just say sceptical until proven otherwise.

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    Phineas T. Barnum has another win!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    At one stage for work I was catching a large passenger cat to a Sandy Island everyday,, The owners decided to spend around Ten thousand dollars (on each of 5 boats) to add "Fuel Ionisation"

    apparently diesel fuel flows better when all the little molecules are facing the same direction.


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    Some of these things can offer some anecdotal benefits, but not normally enough to warrant the cost. Recently some of the physical laws we have come to take as Gospel have been challenged with interesting results, so who knows in the future.
    As for the Polariser at the end of the day (many years after the dispute) Holden engineers did admit it did have an unexplained benefit of the engine running smoother, but not enough to warrant mass production or a significant effect and could not explain why. I have several articles on this floating around in boxes (magazines) somewhwere. The issue of the Polariser had nothing what so ever to do with the product, but GM wanting to take back the racing division and specialty vehicle that they never imagined would be so successful. I actually had a friend who had a HDT vehicle with this fitted and it was strange but it just seemed to idle better and run smoother. May also be our imagination and blind loyalty to Brocky.
    Everything on this rock is related to magnetic fields, tide actions and gravity and this is scientific fact. We have just not learnt to harness it.
    Having said that there are a lot of con men out there that will sell us sparks in a can. At the end of the day we need to decide for ouselves, but it would be nice to see some objective testing of said products.
    Look at Kinetic suspensions, they were originaly ridiculed, the Rotax engine, Orbital engine, Pro Ma Oil additives (this is basically what castrol Magnatec is), use of lpg and there are many many more. The way particles and ions flow and react is a very interesting science.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    can anyone say 'Polariser' ?!
    They work great on non-polar fluids don't they?

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    Where's Brocky when you need him?

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    [quote=Searover;670719]Where's Brocky when you need him?[/quote
    Just about to have a psychic chat with him, hang on I will let you know what he says.
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    [quote=CraigE;670746]
    Quote Originally Posted by Searover View Post
    Where's Brocky when you need him?[/quote
    Just about to have a psychic chat with him, hang on I will let you know what he says.

    I thought that when I wrote 'polariser' but wasn't game to type it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dougal View Post
    They work great on non-polar fluids don't they?

    damn, why didn't I think of that ??

    I can make an ester out of dead dinosaur juice with it !

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