Thread: 30-260 HH's 101 Forward Control

Herc is back on the trailer heading to the Gas certification place tomorrow

a pick of the unpainted petrol tank




Mrs hh

What size is the tank? Any reason why you did not also have it on the outside of the winch? Can you run your winch cable out the back with the tank in place?

Cheers

Garry

Misguided 2 with a petrol tank over and behind the rear diff is a excellant set up as it has both good petrol and gas capacties and the whole thing can be well executed without taking up room in the tray by placing the gas tank in the original petrol tank position.
My 101 is kind of the reverse with a smaller between the chassis rails tank behind the rear diff, but I can carry extra petrol beside the winch in a jerrycan.
But I usually carry a water jerry there, as I have the two jerrycan holders on the rear corners too.
The space between the winch and LHS rear wheel has a tool box to carry winching gear.
This tool box has a space behind and above it to clear the winch cable for reward winching and to the rear is where I normally leave my cable (so others can follow )
I pull about 160 to 200 ks out of a 63lt water cap LPG tank......I dont know what the useable capacity is.
I find the 160 km min on road range will get me from one LPG servo to another on the East coast no problems.( I find most trips I do in my 101 is well under 160 km and it is only on special runs , rallies , events I ever need more LPG range.)
If I need more I just use the petrol to fill in the gaps and still have a long range without loosing space in the tray.
I find in the real world with the overdrive I can sit on 90kph at 2200 rpm and get good fuel burn.
Driving in sand in 40 degree c heat with bar treads and any though of fuel economy just goes out the window either gas or petrol.

To loose the rearward winch capacity I think would be a mistake.
The winch on the 101 is a good when it is understood its strenghs and weaknesses.
Winching from the rear opens a whole new world which people with front mounted winches will never realise.
Trailers can be loaded with a rear winch , or a trailer winched up a hill separate from the vehicle and it is really nice to know if you drive into the poo , you can get out the same way you got in by your self.

Originally Posted by garrycol

What size is the tank? Any reason why you did not also have it on the outside of the winch? Can you run your winch cable out the back with the tank in place?

Cheers

Garry

Around 50ltrs, caus we didn't want to, yes we can

Mrs hh

ps hh is watching the motoring racing so you got me

Originally Posted by 101 Ron

To loose the rearward winch capacity I think would be a mistake.
The winch on the 101 is a good when it is understood its strenghs and weaknesses.
Winching from the rear opens a whole new world which people with front mounted winches will never realise.
Trailers can be loaded with a rear winch , or a trailer winched up a hill separate from the vehicle and it is really nice to know if you drive into the poo , you can get out the same way you got in by your self.

As I have stated we can still winch from the rear

Mr hh

While I am at it the 101 winch has less chance off doing damage if overloaded by mistake( sticking overload clutch) or on purpose winching from the rear.( been there done that )
Winching from the front the cable goes though the two pulleys just behind the LHS front wheel which will bend under a overload.( like forgeting to disenaging the winch PTO and driving off )
Also this winch will drag the vehicle as a whole sideways off a tree or just the front or rear( no tirfor required)

Originally Posted by 101 Ron

Misguided 2 with a petrol tank over and behind the rear diff is a excellant set up as it has both good petrol and gas capacties and the whole thing can be well executed without taking up room in the tray by placing the gas tank in the original petrol tank position.
My 101 is kind of the reverse with a smaller between the chassis rails tank behind the rear diff, but I can carry extra petrol beside the winch in a jerrycan.
But I usually carry a water jerry there, as I have the two jerrycan holders on the rear corners too.
The space between the winch and LHS rear wheel has a tool box to carry winching gear.
This tool box has a space behind and above it to clear the winch cable for reward winching and to the rear is where I normally leave my cable (so others can follow )
I pull about 160 to 200 ks out of a 63lt water cap LPG tank......I don't know what the useable capacity is.
I find the 160 km min on road range will get me from one LPG servo to another on the East coast no problems.( I find most trips I do in my 101 is well under 160 km and it is only on special runs , rallies , events I ever need more LPG range.)
If I need more I just use the petrol to fill in the gaps and still have a long range without loosing space in the tray.
I find in the real world with the overdrive I can sit on 90kph at 2200 rpm and get good fuel burn.
Driving in sand in 40 degree c heat with bar treads and any though of fuel economy just goes out the window either gas or petrol.

We have our gas where the original petrol tank was and a second is behind the rear diff just like Iain's...and Iain's is a cool truck as we have driven it many times

Mrs hh