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    Ron

    I thought we were talking about the rear brakes just here?

    The rears are very much easier than the front becaue of the lack of a swivel and there are numerous calipers with lower profile and higher mounting locations making ideal choices with the option of using ventilated rotors and much greater range of coumpounds than the LR oferings.

    Diana

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    It could be possible to swap over the whole thing from the old front drum brakes to the rear and make them double leading shoe.........why.
    I am finding like on my last weekend away on dry loose dirt roads towing about a tonne of trailer I was getting rear wheel lock up.......don't need more rear brakes.
    Braking rolling rearwards with the double leading shoes on the rear would be interesting too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post
    Ron

    I thought we were talking about the rear brakes just here?

    The rears are very much easier than the front becaue of the lack of a swivel and there are numerous calipers with lower profile and higher mounting locations making ideal choices with the option of using ventilated rotors and much greater range of coumpounds than the LR oferings.

    Diana
    If the front are non ventilated, the better brakes on the rear wouldn't be a good idea.........Lock up ???????? , but matching you Zeus both front and rear with booster........better ???????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101 Ron View Post
    If the front are non ventilated, the better brakes on the rear wouldn't be a good idea.........Lock up ???????? , but matching you Zeus both front and rear with booster........better ???????????
    Or having ventilated front and rear with 60:40 front:rear bias even better. That's what Gary is now doing for the series rovers. Not sayng he's interested in doing 101, but only whats possible.

    For example the Zeuss kit for the Series rover are also solids and require changing the wheel rims, Gary is leaving the standard wheels.

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    Knowing the size of 101 wheels, drums and swivel housings, yeah you are spot on Ron! Best described as 'busy'! That was my original reason for going down the 19.5" rims, and I'll probably still seriously consider it once its on the road, registered and undergoing the diesel conversion. A guy in the UK had a Zeus kit that's new for sale but he was only £100 less than the new kit direct form them so I didn't bother as I'd still like to go down the big disk and calliper on the front.. It'd be nice to have the time to actually just get to the 101 ATM but Hay Season depicts my time elsewhere!!

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    Damned inconsiderate farmers, saying that, in my years of working on farm equipment I became convinced that farmers should not be allowed tools.

    It's much easier just to fix stuff than have to sort out their bodges first.
    One of my favourites was being presented with a bobcat that needed a wheel removing to have a new tyre fitted.

    Things would have been a lot easier if when (a few months earlier) several of the wheel nuts had pulled through the guy hadn't proceeded to weld the wheel onto the hub, instead of buying a new rim.
    Still, cost him a new rim, a hub, and a few hours time to sort it all.
    Same guy ran his Prado with a dud starter for 2 months as he lived up a hill and refused to cough up £300 for a new one.

    In terms of rear discs, I quite like the calliper setup on Disco 2 and 3's.
    the Disco 3 calliper setup has potential as it all fits in a 16" rim, whilst the handbrake setup on the back means there's potential for a decent size of hub in the middle.
    Probably still end up machining custom discs, but it keeps some things standard Land Rover parts?

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    350 mikes on Saturday brought me a Zeus kit to play with. But, instead of bolting it on, I took it all to bits. The calliper casting shape looks to be lifted from another 4 pot design. I think the original callipers were fatter and worked with a vented disk design. Being redeveloped to run with the Zeus Disc. I can't see why a similar set up wouldn't work on the rears. So I've borrowed a rear axle today and later in the week I might see how it would look.

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    Hey Garry thanks , I'll pop the axle back and continue on the derivative calliper hunt.

    Always let me know If I can help,you guys with UK purchases and freight forwarding.

    Pic :- Possible narrowed calliper of a Daimler

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    I have a problem.
    My Zeus brake discs are cracked.
    I was changing a choke cable and crawling under the 101 and then noticed
    Is that a big crack in the brake rotor.
    It turns out both discs and the cracks has spread from almost every bolt hole used to hold the disc onto the hub.
    I cannot see anything that will stop these cracks spreading and leading to sudden a catastrophic failure of the front brakes.
    Be warned!
    I took many pics but only one came out due to reflections from the flash or bad lighting under the 101.
    The exchange rate to the UK is poor at present and I don't own a credit card paypal type thing.
    Could get new discs made here, but my 101 would be off the road for a long time.
    I have treated the brakes well knowing I had no spare discs.
    They have not been cooked.
    The discs have been good until now with no wear showing on the disc itself.
    I have been extremely happy with the Zeus conversion.
    The biggest crack has travelled 1/3 of the way though the disc radius.
    This is a set back

    The above is one of the smaller cracks.
    Check your Zeus brake discs !
    Ron

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