Thread: JayBoRovers 101

My 101 is about 2500kg unladen in running condition with my tools, winch.bull bar and LPG ect.
Luckily Aussie 101s are gross at 3500Kg. (Ex Aussie army ones)
Overseas 101s need engineering to exceed the 3100kg.
The only pro for dropping tare weight is a reduction of annual rego via road tax.
If you want to do this the 101 is the vehicle........take it over the scales stripped in air transport mode.
Your gross weight stamped on the plate on the fan tunnel will not change regardless of the weight it goes over scales at.

I'd definitely remove as much weight as possible, if only to reduce your ongoing rego fee, as its weight based here.

Interestingly when I got Lady Penelope inspected here last year, they accepted the weight stated on an old Vic rego certificate that came with the car, so go figure... Worked in my favour though

Now where is that six pack of sacrificial virgins to appease the sun god for tommorrow

Cheers

Steve

Ps rego is $19.48/100kg. Transport web site has a calculator you can use.

Gday John


Sounds like you got a real muppet of an inspector. when I took mine over the weigh bridge at rous head I got a tare of 1820.the ticket from them only has the make of the car on it. so if you don't want to strip yours down I could just take mine back over and give you the ticket. lol

I spent most of the day playing with the wiring of my S2a but did manage a bit of time on the 101 too. I pulled the drivers side rear wheel off to check things out and make sure it was the oil seal and not the brake cylinder that was leaking. Found the brake shoes with plenty of meat on them but also plenty of oil. The drum looked good (once I wiped some of the oil away), so I think a new seal and a set of new brake shoes and that will be good for re-inspection one day. No photo's as I was doing bursts between heavy rain squalls!

I found a spare rear drum oil seal in the parts that came with the 101, so hopefully it is good to do the job. It looks new but wasn't in a packet. It certainly doesn't look like any seal I've ever removed after removal, so I'm guessing the PO intended to change it but didn't get around to it.

I searched through all the spares that came with the 101 and found a couple of gasket sets, including rocker covers, valley inlet manifold and engine sump gaskets. They'll take care of most of the engine oil leaks that the inspector could be worried about. The only thing I haven't really looked at is oil leak between engine and gearbox, so that'll be my job next weekend.

Another of the stupid things the inspector picked up was: "Speedometer - RECTIFY excessive needle movement/fluctuation/erratic reading". Below about 30kph the needle bounces around quite a bit. I thought maybe the speedo cable is frayed within the sheath and at low revs the cable frays catch and cause the fluctuation?? I found a spare speedo cable in the bunch of spares that came with the 101 so once again I wonder if the PO thought the same and bought the cable but didn't get around to fitting it. It looks new and is tied up exactly like the one pictured in "Able Engineering's 101 Parts" on-line listing, so I'll check it out and see if it sorts the issue. Otherwise I'll be looking into the cable clamping at the drive end. After that it'll be getting more serious, so here's hoping.

The other item I have looked into is the front brake hose that has nicks in the outer sheath. It's called the "Front Brake Jump Hose" that connects the pipe on the axle housing with the pipe coming from the shuttle valve. I looked to order some stuff from Able Engineering but the freight is a killer. (I put three items in my shopping cart (the hub oil seal, the brake jump hose and a set of rear brake shoes and the freight was 65 pounds). Does anyone in WA know if the fittings on the jump hose are standard items that I could go to a local brake place and get a new hose made up?

Another of the silly items the inspector has noted is that I have to submit a vehicle modification application to the Vehicle Safety and Standards Section because "ENGINE MODS TO HAVE VSS APPROVAL".
Me: "What engine mod's?".
Inspector: "It's got a 3.5lt V8 in it".
Me: "That's the standard engine".
Dip****: "I have no way of knowing that and the engine number doesn't match the one on the Victorian permit".
Me: "Arrrggghhhh!" (To myself).

That's it for now. Sorry for the no photo's - hoping the weather won't be complete ****e next weekend. I have one month from last Tuesday for re-inspection at the slightly reduced fee, otherwise full inspection fee applies ... and I'll go somewhere else!

John, why didn't you take it to the Kelmscott pits? I've always got my vehicles though first go up there. Welshpool makes most vehicles fail the first time for some reason. Ellen

John I think that front brake hose is the same as an early Rangy classic rear one, think I still have my old one kicking around will see if I can find it

WA have signed up to approving modifications under VSB14 - per below.

In order to avoid inconvenience and unnecessary paperwork, applicants wishing to modify a vehicle are advised to refer to the national Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Modifications? (VSB14) before completing this application. This code was developed to assist owners to perform safe and legal modifications.

VSB14 states:-

SECTION LA - ENGINE

VERSION 2.0 JANUARY 2011

1 SCOPE

Section LA outlines the minimum design, installation and fabrication requirements for the following
light vehicle modifications involving engine substitutions and modifications.

1.1 BASIC MODIFICATIONS NOT REQUIRING CERTIFICATION

The following are

Basic Modifications that may be performed without certification providing the
modifications are carried out in compliance with the requirements detailed in Clause 2 General
Requirements:



Fitting a replacement new, used or reconditioned engine;



Fitting a manufacturer's optional engine together with any associated components as
supplied by the manufacturer for that same model vehicle;



Fitting replacement original equipment engine and exhaust components;



Fitting replacement original equipment, equivalent or better, components that have no
influence on engine performance or emissions (e.g. higher volume oil pump than original);
and

Fitting equivalent engines with an increase of up to 20% of original power.


I suggest you fix what you can and then go somewhere else as the WA DOT Employee you saw is clearly not of sufficent competence to interpret the rules correctly - FACT!
and go somewhere else as they hate to be told that...

Did you get a copy of the 101 book? Should be sufficient evidence to show compliance to the above.

Good Luck.

Originally Posted by Brute

John I think that front brake hose is the same as an early Rangy classic rear one, think I still have my old one kicking around will see if I can find it

You've been extremely generous already Ian, and greatly appreciated. I decided there would be little cause for argument if I replace all the brake hoses with new ones, and I kind of need to replace the oil soaked shoes too, so I ordered a bunch of stuff from Able Engineering. I got a nice email from Martin at Able Engineering:
QUOTE
"Hi John
I managed to get you a better deal on the shipping so have refunded some of the shipping cost back to your PayPal account.

Regards
Martin Howdle

Able Engineering Ltd
01509 507602"
UNQUOTE

The inspector's note in the defect list regarding the brakes was actually worded so that I'm nervous about the other lines:
"Brake Lines / Hoses - RECTIFY perished/cracked or bulging INCLUDING FRONT MIDDLE FLEXI PIPE."

The honourable inspector (I got asterisked out when I called him by his proper name in an earlier post - started with "dip" followed by the contents of a stool after a bowel movement) mentioned seeing a bulge in a line and I wiped at it to remove it pointing out it was just a bit of dirt. The fact he's later put it on the form makes me think it might give him another option for another fail. It can't hurt to have the old ones as spares and I'm not selling the 101 any time soon.

Originally Posted by Shortie

John, why didn't you take it to the Kelmscott pits? I've always got my vehicles though first go up there. Welshpool makes most vehicles fail the first time for some reason. Ellen

A couple of reasons:
1) Ian's workshop is just around the corner from the Welshpool pits and we needed to do a few things to the 101 before going over the pits
2) Ian, and also maybe Stu, had got their 101's through the Welshpool pits, albeit after a retest for Stu.
3) I made a complaint against the Kelmscott pits after they failed me when getting my Dakar bike licensed. The complaint was cleared up and they had to waive the re-inspection fee when I returned. I thought they might remember me.

If I don't make the re-inspection within the time limit at Welshpool, I'll go to the Kelmscott pits next time.