Mog or 101

**harry** · 19th March 2009, 10:03 PM

you blokes are dreaming.
a falcon or dunnydore will do most draggin' a caravan.
so why bother with either.
certainly the merc will be the greater achiever, but only the military can afford to run them

**101 Ron** · 19th March 2009, 10:18 PM

There was a off road requirement in the question ,and different strokes for different blokes.

OZ101 · 22nd March 2009, 09:43 AM

The problem with the Jap 4x4 e.g. Canter etc no diff locks (I think the Canter has a rear diff lock but not sure) and difficult to get after-market off road gear for them, they are not designed for hard off roading like the 101 & Mog, but on road you can't beat them.
So I suppose it depends on what type of traveling you want to do.

What about the MAN 13.280 Its got the lot diff lock all round ABS EBS Triptronic gear box, cruise control,climate control the list goes on and on, might be a bit to big for the smaller tracks through, does anyone know what these trucks are like when the going gets tough?

**Chucaro** · 22nd March 2009, 09:51 AM

I like THESE beasts

I believe that they are used up north in Qld and the operators are very happy with them

**Chucaro** · 22nd March 2009, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by OZ101

The problem with the Jap 4x4 e.g. Canter etc no diff locks (I think the Canter has a rear diff lock but not sure) and difficult to get after-market off road gear for them, they are not designed for hard off roading like the 101 & Mog, but on road you can't beat them.
So I suppose it depends on what type of traveling you want to do.

What about the MAN 13.280 Its got the lot diff lock all round ABS EBS Triptronic gear box, cruise control,climate control the list goes on and on, might be a bit to big for the smaller tracks through, does anyone know what these trucks are like when the going gets tough?

In THIS site you will find plenty info about making the Canter a capable vehicle

**Slunnie** · 22nd March 2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by DiscoDavo

Slunnie, $5k for mog axles ?

Anyone got an idea as to the cost for Pinz axles ?
Marks are about to release a GQ portal kit for $15K!! Pinz gotta be close to LR for track?!

And to get back on thread, just what the doctor ordered:
Unimog Australia: U1750L/38 camper
Cheers, Dave.

Hmmm, I was certain thats what Rob @ TractiveForce was bringing in refurb by Mercedes mog axles for - in crates. Just jumped onto their website and they dont have a sales section in it anymore unless Ive got the wrong website!

Nup, just checked. the website is correct but the sales section is gone.

**101RRS** · 22nd March 2009, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by OZ101

The problem with the Jap 4x4 difficult to get after-market off road gear for them,

You will not buy model specific after-market off road gear for a 101 either - and I would assume the same would apply to a mog.

As Ron said - the 101 and Mog were designed for specific purposes and long distance touring is not one of them. There are better vehicles available.

Garry

**tankradio2** · 23rd March 2009, 01:46 PM

Having driven Unimogs extensively while in the Army, and my own 101 Ambulance extensively as a private vehicle, if given a choice I would try the OKA.

Anyone have personal experience with these ?

Cheers

Phill

**Shonky** · 23rd March 2009, 03:05 PM

OKAs are hugely expensive aren't they?

I probably spent more time driving Iain Reed's 101 at Corowa than my own truck (!) and while I love it, I don't know that I would want to do a lot of long distance work in it.

I haven't driven a Mog - It's on my list of things to do...

**101 Ron** · 23rd March 2009, 04:12 PM

A friend of mine purchased a OKA.
It has a dual cab and a body on the back set up for long distance touring.
It has every option that was available when purchased.
The cabin is very large and workable.
The power is a turbo 4 litre perkins.
the running gear is rockwell and the front diff is Dana 60 and the rear a Dana 70.
Construction thoughout is very heavy duty as the OKA was designed with the mining industry in mine. (rops cab).
The OKA makes a fine chassis for a explore Aussie camper.
It is also very heavy and expensive.
It spreads the weight on four tyres only.
Jap 4x4 trucks tend to have duals on the back and are cheaper with less weight.
It comes back to personal requirements and tastes.
We are not comparing apples with apples, but oranges with apples.
The 101 is a small vehicle and designed light for air transport with a one tonne payload as manufactured.(1500 kg weight stripped).
The mog is a much larger vehicle and in a different class again.
Both mog and 101 are designed for military convoy speeds and needs.
The small jap trucks (4x4) are 4 tonne payload and usually duals on the rear with a self locking diff and much, much better cabins with engines and drive trains designed for modern road systems.
The OKA is different again and more strongly built than the jap trucks as they are designed for the hard yards of industry. ( when was the last time you have seen body components made from 3/8 steel plate ?)
In Contrast the 101 is mostly Birmabright pop riveted together and alloy motor and running gear and why the 101 is a great military vehicle and a poor industry work horse.

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