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    Quote Originally Posted by Brid View Post
    Do you reckon there might be any way that the engine immobilizer function can be totally removed?

    I'd swap anti theft security for start reliability in the bush any day. I understand mechanical things...but computerized ecectronic stuff I can't, and it's specialized repair anyway, so even if I could, there's no chance of fixing it myself either!
    I spent some time reading the RAVE manual on the D2 security system. In them the body control module earths all the relay circuits it controls/disables. It should be possible to trace every circuit colour and remove it from the BCM, earthing it to chassis instead. I have no idea how the later models manage this but I am chucking this idea into the ring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brid View Post
    Do you reckon there might be any way that the engine immobilizer function can be totally removed?

    I'd swap anti theft security for start reliability in the bush any day. I understand mechanical things...but computerized ecectronic stuff I can't, and it's specialized repair anyway, so even if I could, there's no chance of fixing it myself either!
    Yes the immobiliser can be deactivated. I had mine turned off by the dealer, as the immobiliser would activate when I left the vehicle with keys in the ignition and I would have to lock and unlock the vehicle before it would start.
    I later asked for it to be reinstated and everything then worked without fault for several months. However last week it was back to its old tricks, plus an incidence of failure to lock the vehicle with the remote, I locked it with the key, upon return to the vehicle was able to open with remote and no problems starting. Phew! lucky not be stranded, judging by some previous post on this matter.

    Perhaps if travelling in remote areas it would be a good idea to turn it off.

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    Just to update on my non-start experience...When I got the vehicle delivered back to Brisbane (from Bundaberg), I was able to open with the remote once only...then it had to be the key from then on.

    I disconnected the remote controller from the key ring, and found that I was able to start the engine with no remote anywhere near the vehicle.

    Obviously the Bundy dealer must have disconnected the immobilizer...pretty happy with that, but puzzled that they ordered a new one!!

    Anyway I have a fair list of other warranty items to address so will take it to Southside for that. I've got over 93,000kms on it now, and thought I should take it to some LR specialist for pre-end of warranty check. Anyone got any suggestions on whether this is worthwhile? And if so, who in the Brissy area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brid View Post
    Just to update on my non-start experience...When I got the vehicle delivered back to Brisbane (from Bundaberg), I was able to open with the remote once only...then it had to be the key from then on.

    I disconnected the remote controller from the key ring, and found that I was able to start the engine with no remote anywhere near the vehicle.

    Obviously the Bundy dealer must have disconnected the immobilizer...pretty happy with that, but puzzled that they ordered a new one!!

    Anyway I have a fair list of other warranty items to address so will take it to Southside for that. I've got over 93,000kms on it now, and thought I should take it to some LR specialist for pre-end of warranty check. Anyone got any suggestions on whether this is worthwhile? And if so, who in the Brissy area?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallops View Post
    Brid - take it to MR Automotive in Redcliffe..
    X 2

    But if you really want to give the dealer a heart attack, get the RACQ to do their pre-warranty expiry check. They will make the vehicle sound downright un-roadworthy with all the minor issues they usually list.

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    The dealers haven't been able to reinstate the engine immobilizer & currently the central locking won't work either. Two new immobilizer modules have been tried under warranty, but even with LR Aust involved, they cannot get it to communicate.

    Assuming they get it fixed again, does anyone know how to isolate the immobilizer for when we do our outback trips? ...one coming up in October.

    Clearly I don't want to be bailed up with the immobilizer locking down the engine again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevencam View Post
    Perhaps if travelling in remote areas it would be a good idea to turn it off.
    THIS sounds like a good idea....how do you turn all this crap off so you DONT get any of this ****e when your in the outback, all you really want is to be able to have remote opening of doors, if that fails you use your key to open and no dramas thenjust fix remote when home. This stupid imobilizer seems to be more hassle than its worth............anyway what person in there right mind would want to steel a Defender

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    Bit of a loss as to what the problem is out bush.

    Only lock with the key and make sure you keep that electronic push button dongle thingy well away from the ignition "switch".

    Take it with you cause if you do find a dodgy town out there you can use it.




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    Reaility is in really remote spots were I go I wont lock it !!

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    Regarding immobilising the Defender. How about putting the transfer box in neutral then removing the transfer lever? Uless she is being towed that should get the thieves stumped!

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