Wider mirrors for carrying a camper on D130 CC

**austastar** · 19th May 2010, 07:56 PM

Hi,
I'm looking at putting a 2150mm wide camper on the back of a 130 Defender Cab Chassis.
Given the width of the D130 with mirrors is 1992mm, I need to get my mirrors further out.
PaddockSpares are selling this one

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Part No. DA4409
Head Dimensions - 204 x 140mm (8 x 5 1/2")
Arm Length - 290mm
Convex with fixing kit and long arm
Optical quality polycarbonate lens - will not shatter like glass or discolour in sunlight
Strong, flexible polypropylene casing - will absorb hard blows without breaking
Universal - can be fitted to either left or right of vehicle
Lightweight - puts less strain on body fixings
Hard lacquer coating on lens - will repel condensation and surface water
Excellent reflectivity - superb daylight and night time vision
8<-------------------
which is longer than the standard arm by about 150mm, which should put the mirrors outside the width of the camper for better rear vision.

Is anybody else carrying a camper with similar width?
Anybody else using wider mirrors?
Any comments on this or another product?

cheers

**weeds** · 19th May 2010, 08:37 PM

do the 130 have the same mirror arms as the 110? if so land rover have an extended arm as a spare part and you can retain the mirror

i have no idea what the part number is

**dmdigital** · 19th May 2010, 09:01 PM

P/N: RRC8443

**austastar** · 19th May 2010, 09:18 PM

Thanks a million, found it by googling the part number from dmdigital - brilliant.
Will follow up with BritPart.co.uk
cheers

**austastar** · 19th June 2010, 03:46 PM

Hi,
My mirrors arrived ok, and are now fitted.
I had troubles with the left one, and needed Justin Cooper's help (thanks Justin) to show me how to get the door covers off to recover a dropped nut that was not captive as I thought it would be.
I thought I would write up the second one, in case others may want to do similar.

Ok so this is the right door and mirror fitting.

The arm is about a mirror's width longer, and will go on either left or right door.

BEFORE you undo the hinge, open the door and push in the centre of this retaining clip, not too far, or you will loose the little bit down the inside of the door and have to take the panel off completely.
The clip should now pull out along with the pin hanging out the end a bit.

Work the door cover away from the metal, gently does it, you don't want to break any of the little plastic fasteners, until you can get to these nuts.
With some blue tack or similar, tack them in place so they wont drop when the screw is removed from them.
I then jammed a towel in there as well as extra holding force, and shut the door so when the hinge is loosened, the door is held firmly by the other hinge and the door lock.

Now you can undo the hinge bolts with care not to disturb the blue tacked nuts.
You can see the towel positioned for extra support holding the nuts.

Now you can get to the screws that hold the mirror arm.

Replace the mirror arm with the new one, the original arm had grease over the locating spring so apply a similar amount of grease, tighten the screws, swing the hinge back and carefully reintroduce the hinge bolts back into the door and feel for the thread of you captive nut.
Then fit the mirror, they are left and right handed, unlike the arms.

All finished.
With the mirror arms back at 45° my rear vision is lined up along the edge of the flat tray.
Both mirrors are too far out for the 1830mm tray at 90°, but should be perfect for the 2150 wide slide on.
I can see both mirrors at 90° now, before the original left mirror would hide behind the door pillar.

cheers

**fraser130** · 20th June 2010, 11:00 AM

Austastar, can I ask what the damage was?
I have been wanting the same thing for my 130 and the Trayon camper.
Was going to order Wolf mirror assemblies from the UK, but this sounds like a better option.
Fraser

**austastar** · 20th June 2010, 02:41 PM

Hi,
Part no RRC8443 Extra Long Defender Mirror Arm, $170 for the pair, plus $16.50 freight from Rovacraft Ph (02) 9700 8920.

From what I know of the Trayon, this should suit nicely.

cheers

**fraser130** · 1st February 2011, 10:18 AM

Well, it would appear that more people are doing this, so the price has changed....they are now $138 each!!!!!!
Oh well!
Have ordered them anyway (2 of the Wolf arms to suit the current mirror heads)

Fraser

**Lotz-A-Landies** · 1st February 2011, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by austastar

Hi,
I'm looking at putting a 2150mm wide camper on the back of a 130 Defender Cab Chassis.
Given the width of the D130 with mirrors is 1992mm, I need to get my mirrors further out.
PaddockSpares are selling this one

8<-----------------------------------
Part No. DA4409
Head Dimensions - 204 x 140mm (8 x 5 1/2")
Arm Length - 290mm
Convex with fixing kit and long arm
Optical quality polycarbonate lens - will not shatter like glass or discolour in sunlight
Strong, flexible polypropylene casing - will absorb hard blows without breaking
Universal - can be fitted to either left or right of vehicle
Lightweight - puts less strain on body fixings
Hard lacquer coating on lens - will repel condensation and surface water
Excellent reflectivity - superb daylight and night time vision
8<-------------------
which is longer than the standard arm by about 150mm, which should put the mirrors outside the width of the camper for better rear vision.

Is anybody else carrying a camper with similar width?
Anybody else using wider mirrors?
Any comments on this or another product?

cheers

The (unbreakable) mirror unit in this image is centre mounted. I'd still prefer the OEM Australian Spec (left and right hand) 110 mirrors on the extended arms. It positions your mirrors about 25mm further out than any of the Britpart or unbreakable mirrors.

You can buy the Britpart/Wolf extended arms without the mirrors.

It's what I have for my Gog.

**vnx205** · 7th February 2012, 02:18 PM

I have just fitted extended mirrors on the Defender to improve rear vision when the Trayon is fitted.

With the benefit of Austastar's excellent instructions in this thread, it was quite straightforward.

The mirrors were Masai extended mirrors.
Wing Mirrors

However mine were supplied by Modern Motors Dungog.
Modern Motors Dungog

They were the item that I selected to redeem the Modern Motors voucher which I earned by driving further than anyone else to get to the AULRO 10th Anniversary NSW gathering. (only about 10km further than Tank, but enough to claim the prize.

)

As others have mentioned, these mirrors are mounted on the arms at the centre of the mirror rather than offset like the originals. So the increase in width is slightly less than the extra length in the arms.

I removed the plastic pin holding the door trim in place, although on one side, I could have fitted my patented nut holders in place with out removing the pin.

Having been forewarned that those nuts on the hinge bolts were not as captive as they might be, I came up with a different solution from the one used by Austastar.
He used blue tack. I used a couple of pieces of carefully trimmed

pieces of cardboard with duct tape, sticky side out wrapped around the end. I jambed then in between the nuts and the door trim, folded the cardboard over and shut the door. The nuts stayed in place while I removed and replaced the screws.

One minor hiccup was that the screw holes in the new mirror mount were slightly smaller than the screws used on the original mirror, so I bought four bolts to fit.

Like the original mirrors when set at 90 degrees, they just touch the recess moulded into the Safari snorkel. (The snorkel hasn't faded to grey. I had to fiddle with the image to get the black components to show up.)

The reason for fitting the mirrors would have been more obvious if I had the camper on, but I think you will get an idea of the improvement.
As mentioned earlier in this thread, the original passenger mirror tends to be obscured when set at 90 degrees. The extended mirror can be set at 90 without being blocked by the pillar.

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