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I doubt my car will last 10 years. I will sell mine once the extended warranty I will be getting is finished. There is no way I could afford the ongoing repairs required just to keep it on the road. Mine has been getting repairs done one week in four for the last six months with no end in sight. I have little faith in the Puma's reliability and less in LR willingness to sort it out under warranty. I have been told by my service centre that my expectations are too high for the Puma.
Kilometres travelled is a good point but it isn't as simple as that. It is also a factor of how hard they are worked and where they are worked. I would expect my D90 with my minimalist approach to gear when touring will last much longer than a 130 that does the same distance but with a tonne or more of gear in the back all the time. Also, two similar vehicles travelling the same roads but at different average speeds will have different expected longevities.
I am thinking that if us Puma drivers want to keep our rigs long term then once out of warranty just start replacing lr drivetrain parts with improved aftermarket parts and buy an aftermarket motor as funds permit.
My cruiser ute was still going great after 10 years of ownership.... I think Puma owners will need to start putting "stronger components" in as stuff breaks out of warranty. I see a "Puma" cottage industry starting up.
I hope we are all able to still buy "live axeled" rovers and 70 series styled cruisers in 20 years time. Someone will still see a market for a real 4x4 surely.
So it begs the question - what is the ideal Land Rover in terms of longevity? A Puma chassis and body, Isuzu motor and matching gearbox, salisbury axles, TD5 interior and dash. Could make an interesting project :)
I feel so depressed owning 2 Land Rovers that I doubt I shall last the next 20 years - let alone the truck.:(
AFAIC - Pumas are junk. :mad: Mine doesn't seem capable of lasting through it's warranty, let alone any long term goal. So many people, having issue after issue - so many threads on so many forums - do some searching if you doubt this - it's universal, the world over, so many of these vehicles with dramas - it's a disgrace.
I cringe when I see new owners proudly announcing their faith in these trucks - a new vehicle should work. I just hope, for their sake, that they still feel OK with their purchase after a few more years and a few more kms. I don't.
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Originally Posted by mike_ie
Id go a perentie with the firewall removed, sand blasted and cad plated
Yeh reading all that stuff depresses me as well, I did talk to another 130 puma owner the other day 79 k and only a clutch and vacume seal. The other car owned by Gary Yost a 130 twin cab 83 k and he claims no issues, best ute he's had and he had a feet of over 100 utes at one time for his business.
At the same time my close mate is foreman mechanic at Holden where i live, he said new holdens are crap. The captiva has every imaginable problem, they call them craptivas, one bloke had a colarado he was up near the CSR now he may not gave been driving to conditions but ge broke front and rear shackles, diff slid back pulling prop shaft out, this spun around and tore hole in the gearbox. It cost him $7200 to get a tow and just over 9k in damage. My mate said the stone sheilds underneath where polished silver...... No clearance and just another fake 4x4.
There has to continue to be a market forca fairdinkum off road rig with reasonable comfort. The puma is it just not executed well. There is a market for someone to do Puma conversions to make them bullet proof...... Brand new motor and drivetrain transplants, a reliable 6 cyl diesel motor and super strong drivetrain all new parts at a price that while may not be too cheap but could be justified as it will last 20 years, it would be standard conversion with all parts aimed at longevity and reliability.
I wish I didn't agree but I do. I have been rorted and unfortunately more will come to the same conclusion in time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scallops
I can see them being a great 20 year vehicle:)
Once you've all retrofitted 4BD1's and LT95's:twisted:
Seems unlikley it will be legal to drive internal combustion engined vehicles in 20 years, with the possible exception of some sort of limited club registration.
Hopefully I'll be able to retro-fit electric engined drop-drives into the puma and use the engine bay for addtional storage :D