PUMA air-con issues

Hi Sue,

Thanks very much for that. I haven't even spoken to the dealer yet I was waiting to see how you got on with yours:D. I just thought having the part No. might help when I explain the issue to them.

I had that white fog in my 4runner years ago and the air con wasn't working as cold as it should, the white fog indicated the gas was low, so I was told. Had it re-gassed and it was fine.

My Puma doesn't do the white thing when it freezes, but i wonder if it's the humidity where you are possibly making that happen.

Let us know in a bit if it has fixed it if you don't mind.

Mick

white fog is from humidity and a medium [cold]temp.the moisture is concentrated but not cold enough to form droplets.
lots of different methods to reduce this including matting after the evap coil.
one of the first things thown to increase air flow.

in a HVAC[heated] system hot moist air cant always be cooled enough.
most of the warrany complaints ive had is the owner that bails out just after they switched off the engine.

thermisters most of the time sit off the coil a measure the air temp.
presetts are mostly 0-2 deg C and give a very narrow cycle gap.
often these destroy clutches and freeze up.

coil gas/metal temps are well bellow 0c-some thermister push into the coil
and some that dont get pushed into the coil.

TX-lots of types.most have temperature control of the gas flow.
alot of the units had been adjusted to shut down at around -2 to 0 metal temps-what happens is the TX does the job of the thermostat.and it never cycles.new systems the compressor reduces flow to hold a preset temp-and they freeze up--luxury cars have a defrost temp sencor attached to the coil to cut out the compressor.

Davehoos, mate you are a wealth of knowledge, I'm assuming this is your line of work.

Thanks for the information.

Thanks for the info Davehoos! :)

Still no news to give you on the air con in mine Cracka.. I went to pick it up this morning and they have asked to keep it an extra day as the job has taken a little longer than they expected.. not too many complaints coming from me though as had given me a loan car - a brand spanking new Discovery 4 with less than 2000 kms on the clock - to use while mine is being repaired.

My biggest fear is that I'll get too used to the luxury of the Disco and buy one.. hmm.. maybe that is all part of their sales plan.. :p

I am supposed to collect mine tomorrow so will let you know how it went once I get it back.. :)

Haha, as I was reading that I thought, mmmmm be trading up soon:D nice loan car......

Not a worry thanks for getting back to us.

Mick.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Sue

.. not too many complaints coming from me though as had given me a loan car - a brand spanking new Discovery 4 with less than 2000 kms on the clock - to use while mine is being repaired.

---

Well as least I know where I'm going to invest my hard earned getting mine fixed!

Thanks for the update, keep us posted Sue.

Well the good news is that the air con is fixed and works a treat.. I literally froze all the way home from the dealership as I wanted to test it.. no complaints there.

Bad news is that while they were fixing the air con they discovered a problem in the clutch... so my baby is booked to go back in after Easter for a new Clutch, Transmission and something about the drive train.. (don't ask me I'm a girl).. beware though as the dealer told me that mine is not the first one that's been done it appears to be a fault with the 2011/12 models (he was unsure about the 2013 models) but it's being fixed under warranty and they'll give me another loan car for the week while mine is in..

I am grateful though that:
a) they told me about it as I was totally unaware my car had a problem.. it's one of those things that happens gradually so it wasn't noticed... and...
b) that it was found out now and not in August when I am doing a 13,500kms trip in the outback..

Kudo's to Land Rover for picking up on it, telling me about it, and for arranging to have it replaced with minimal inconvenience for me. My 18 month old defender has already done 61,500kms so in another 6 months there would not have even been a warranty on it and it would not have been their problem any more.. :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by knodes85

Well as least I know where I'm going to invest my hard earned getting mine fixed!

Thanks for the update, keep us posted Sue.

---

That would be Bruce Lynton on the Gold Coast not the Brisbane Dealership Knodes.. :)

Woohoo good news Sue. At least they picked up the clutch issue, be interested to know the exact problem when you get it done if it seems to be plaguing those model years.

Was that a problem with the clutch, transmission and drivetrain or were you just saying its a problem there somewhere in those areas?

Mick

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Cracka

Woohoo good news Sue. At least they picked up the clutch issue, be interested to know the exact problem when you get it done if it seems to be plaguing those model years.

Was that a problem with the clutch, transmission and drivetrain or were you just saying its a problem there somewhere in those areas?

Mick

---

They are replacing the whole clutch and transmission.. so sounds like that's where the fault is.. :)

And I've already starting copping the "what did you expect it's a Land Rover" and "well they are a piece of crap" lines *sigh*.. That makes me mad as I had much worse trouble with a new car from Nissan and my father is plagued with issues with his new 200 series Toyota Cruiser.. the difference is where as Nissan and Toyota gave the run around and left us footing the bill (nearly 10 grand with the Nissan) at least Land Rover has stepped up to the plate to make it right.. The point is that every make will have some problems sometime but it's the warranty or lack of it that make the difference between it being a major problem or a minor inconvenience.

Well it sounds like you have a pearler of a dealer there Sue.

Don't worry I get that bull:censored:t about Landrovers all the time and it p:censored:s me off big time. You are right every make has its issues, some more than others I guess, but on forums you only here about the problems most of the time unfortunately.