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    Thanks Rick,

    yeah i'll get him to put a new one or reinforce the existing clutch lever maybe could weld a washer on there. The clutch plate is not a geniune one just some Al-Cheapo...!

    the Deefer will be back in action soon.

    cheers,

    Chris

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    I don't see how clutch plate failure can cause the transfercase or gearbox to pop out of gear, because no clutch=no drive= you're not going to move
    Wagoo.

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    What actually happened is the vehicle basically would lose drive and when it happened the gear lever would still be in that gear, transfer lever still in high. i think by saying poping out of gear was the wrong term used.

    when the mechanic took it for a drive hes like, theres nothing wrong then as he was returning to the workshop it lost drive and this time could not get it to move again, in any of the gears. Upon removal of the gearbox yesterday the result being the centre of the clutch plate (Splines) had been wearing away gradually until being ground completeley out.

    I'm assuming it's designed this way so that the clutch plate fails first.

    cheers,

    Chris

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris1983rangie View Post
    What actually happened is the centre of the clutch plate (Splines) had been wearing away gradually until being ground completeley out.

    I'm assuming it's designed this way so that the clutch plate fails first.

    cheers,

    Chris
    Chris.
    I'm semi retired and have been out of the loop for a couple of years, but I have never heard of the clutch plate splines stripping being a deliberate design feature to act as a fuse to prevent failure of other components down the transmission line. It is the most difficult 'fuse' to gain access to and immobilises the vehicle completely, wheras a broken axle, diff, t/case or gearbox will in most cases still leave the vehicle with some capability to limp along. from a labor cost perspective it would be 5 times cheaper to pay a mechanic to replace a diff than a clutch.
    sounds like your truck has previously been fitted with a cheap non geuine quality clutch plate.
    Wagoo.

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    clutch centre

    Hi Chris

    That clutch plate may not have been meant for a Land Rover at all.
    If the spline count was wrong and the size of the centre was that way that the plate just grabbed the spline, this would quickly lead to it tearing the centre out.
    Does the pressure plate and the clutch plate have any ID or part numbers on them at all?

    Cheers Arthur

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    Wow, that's a new one

    When I've heard and seen centres tearing out it's been the complete spline/hub assembly from the sprung centre.

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    Have not heard of a clutch spline resulting in that before.
    Let us know what the end result is.
    I did have similar in my RRC with an R380 in it and did the same pulled out the gear and trans box, to find nothing wrong. Ended up being the passenger side front short axle into the CV had stripped. Easy to check and something to bear in mind if it is not the clutch or gear or trans box.
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    yeah no probs im keen to find out what the end result is too, im gona keep that clutch plate when i get the landy back so i can photograph it and put it up on this thread for you all to see.

    Yes i agree after putting a bit more thought into that, acting as a fuse. It would be pointless to design a clutch to fail first as it is a huge ammount of work to get to when replacing.

    mechanic said he was unable to identify its Brand, and i tell ya i'll have a heart attack if its not even a Landy clutch.....!

    cheers,

    Chris

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