Defender 130, TD5 or Puma?

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Originally Posted by Chops

not so keen on getting a manual though,, but both cars are the same that way

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I can't believe no one has commented on this yet! :o

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Originally Posted by brendanm

Some of the issues with the TD5 were warped exhaust manifold that pulled the studs from the alloy head, EGR valve burning out, .......

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This is false.

Studs have bee known to break. not "pull out of the head". Furthermore stud breakage is not a problem unique to the TD5, neither is it a given that all, TD5s will break a stud.

EGRs are known to block up and fail, not "burn out". and is again not unique to a TD5.

The difference between actual issues and the highlighted aspect of the post is unhelpful to the OP.

cheers

For me I could have spent 10K on my Tdi and made it really nice,I could have bought a late model Td5 and spent money on it making it really nice but my Puma is all new.The 2.4 punches above it's weight,the gearbox is just good with very well matched ratio's,the suspension is just right,the whole thing is just plain good.I love my Tdi and always will but no matter how much I look at it it's still a 13 year old vehicle.The world moves on and so do vehicle improvements. Pat

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Originally Posted by VladTepes

The TD5 also has lots of things wrong with it - a mate who was trained as a LR mechanic reckons they are "disposable".

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What ?? OK how about I come collect all your 'Disposable' TD5 engines when your done with them, Hell, I'll even waive my 'environmental recovery levy'

Of all the LandRovers I've owed & the 3 Toyotas plus other vehicles the TD5 is by far the most impressive engine of the lot of them - by a long shot.

Looking forward to a Puma if my TD5 ever meets the 'disposable' status, but I reckon I will expire before it does thanks to the centrifuge oil filter.

Have your missus sit in the passenger seat of a td5 and a puma. If she has legs she will not be happy with the td5, as the aircon is located in the passenger footwell. It's fine for about an hour then the complaining will quickly drown out all other noise.

With the puma, you also get a heater that works and a dash that won't disintegrate after the first pothole.

If your family enjoy being in your landy, you will get to use it more... I changed the plans quite a bit for my county after wanting to go camping but my missus said she would love too but wasn't real keen on spending hours being shaken to death in a deafeningly loud oven. She has (very lovely) long legs and doesn't like to go for too long in my fathers td5.

Just my take on it. I'll let others argue the tech.. as I believe they are both great engines.

After my last post regarding the Puma, I sat and thought about it a little longer. I have realized that if I am out in the middle of nowhere in a TD5 in Western Australia, engine and gearbox parts are only available in Perth. For a Puma, I could check with the local Ford Dealer if a vacum pump ect failed.
Perhaps now the Puma is a better option.

Allan

Not sure where the 2700 rpm @ 100 kph comes from, my td5 130 sits on around 2100 rpm @100 kph.

Cheers, Mick.

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Originally Posted by Allan

After my last post regarding the Puma, I sat and thought about it a little longer. I have realized that if I am out in the middle of nowhere in a TD5 in Western Australia, engine and gearbox parts are only available in Perth. For a Puma, I could check with the local Ford Dealer if a vacum pump ect failed.
Perhaps now the Puma is a better option.

Allan

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A td5 wouldn't need a vacuum pump! :D

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Originally Posted by Psimpson7

A td5 wouldn't need a vacuum pump! :D

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But it would need a fuel pump, and an injector harness..... :ninja:

Touche! :D

I carry a spare fuel pump