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    Any one 'On Air'

    Hi,
    Needing my 'ute' back for carrying some long timber, I tentatively had a go at lifting the Innovan and driving the D130 out from underneath.
    Not having a level spot was a problem, but I did have a short length of path I could back up to and put the legs on to keep the suspended van level.

    The winder legs are quite substantial and lifted with out too much drama, but as the whole thing is rigid, sometimes one of the other legs would lift as well as the one I was winding.

    I got the whole thing about 50mm off the tray eventually, those long coil springs kept following me up for about 75mm, but as the front wheels were lower than the rear wheels parked on the path, the rear of the tray wouldn't clear the front of the van as I moved forward.

    Shut the whole exercise down and put it all back again till I can get it all level.

    I'm seriously considering Airbagman suspension to replace the rear coil springs.
    This would give an even lift, pop in the legs, drop the suspension, drive out, pump up again and drive off.

    Any one else using airbagman suspension?

    Any comments on your experiences??

    cheers

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    how much was it going to hit by? couldnt get away with dropping tyres to 5psi and driving straight forward?

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    Company i worked for a while back used airbagman kits for trailers, pretty good stuff.

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    Funnily enough I dropped the pressure in my Firestone bags today to drive out from under my jacked up canopy. I have a kit from Airbagman, but could have paid 1/3 of the price and got them from trucksprings.com. Not sure of the kit number from them.

    Airbagman supply plastic bottom spacers and top protection plates, which I don't think trucksprings do.

    Also, Airbagman can supply extra sleeves that allow you to raise the maximum pressure from 30psi to 60psi. I thought these were unnecessary until one bag started to deform a bit. I now have sleeves

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    Quote Originally Posted by austastar View Post
    Hi,
    Needing my 'ute' back for carrying some long timber, I tentatively had a go at lifting the Innovan and driving the D130 out from underneath.
    --- put it all back again till I can get it all level.

    I'm seriously considering Airbagman suspension to replace the rear coil springs.
    This would give an even lift, pop in the legs, drop the suspension, drive out, pump up again and drive off.
    Any one else using airbagman suspension?
    Hi Dave

    What you need is a piece of level ground, you can bring the Innovan up to my place if you need to leave it off for a while.

    I have Airbagman helper bags in the back of my Defender that we can have a play with, you can then get a bit of an idea if that system would work for you, although it wouldn't have anything like the range of height travel, that a full air bag system would have.

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    I have air bags inside the coils at the back of my Defender.

    I also have a slide-on camper that I remove when I want to use the vehicle for other jobs.

    Furthermore, I also have a similar problem with the ground in front of the vehicle. The slight depression that serves as a drain at the front of the carport raises the back end of the tray so that as I drive out, the clearance that I thought was sufficient is no longer enough.

    My solution has been to put a couple of pieces of timber about 150x50 to straddle the drain in front of the vehicle so that the front wheels don't drop down and the back of the tray doesn't lift up.

    I doubt that the helper bags would change the suspension lift enough to eliminate the problem. However there is also the problem that the instructions for the air bags say that the bags should be inflated before the weight is added to the vehicle rather than pumping them up after the weight has compressed the springs. Of course that may not be relevant of you replace the coils rather than just using the bags as helpers.

    BTW, I bought Firestone bags and air lines from trucksprings in the US for exactly half the price in Aus. I made up my own spacers for the top and bottom of the bags.

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
    1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 - often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.

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    You can always find the answer on here! Was just about to ask the same question! Have just finished making the new tray to accept the camp body I'm building for the 130 and planned to do the same thing! Will look up those links!

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    My honest opinion is steer away from the inner spring bags and go for full air. Too many issues I have come across with the former, the full air system is a way better prospect for total adjustability and reliability. A spare bellows and some air fittings/ joiners will be enough for spares, if you ever need them.

    Just my 2c worth.

    JC

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    Oh! for bags of

    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    My honest opinion is steer away from the inner spring bags and go for full air. Too many issues I have come across with the former, the full air system is a way better prospect for total adjustability and reliability. A spare bellows and some air fittings/ joiners will be enough for spares, if you ever need them. Just my 2c worth. JC
    Have the inner springs bags, does cure the sags.
    To give a lift, to a lofty height, takes a bag to be mighty tight.
    The money to be fair, is a lot just for some fresh air.

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