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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    It would appear to be a development of the Morris 1100 "Hydrolastic" (It Floats on Fluid) suspension from the 1960s.
    The difference is this actually works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    It would appear to be a development of the Morris 1100 "Hydrolastic" (It Floats on Fluid) suspension from the 1960s.



    Morris 1100 in Australia - Hydrolastic Suspension
    The 'hydro' part is self explanetary. The 'Lastic' part? does that refer to the elasticity of the rubber capped Hydraulic chambers in absorbing fluid displacement when both wheels hit bumps simultaneously? If the Kinetic system works on the same or similar principal, I wonder how the inventor was granted a patent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wagoo View Post
    The 'hydro' part is self explanetary. The 'Lastic' part? does that refer to the elasticity of the rubber capped Hydraulic chambers in absorbing fluid displacement when both wheels hit bumps simultaneously? If the Kinetic system works on the same or similar principal, I wonder how the inventor was granted a patent.
    bill.
    Yes, the chambers were elastic.

    The Kinetic system is obviously much more sophisticated and incorporates features that were not in the suspension fitted to the Mini, Morris 1100, 1500 and 1800.

    1973 Series III LWB 1983 - 2006
    1998 300 Tdi Defender Trayback 2006 - often fitted with a Trayon slide-on camper.

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    Kinetic offered 3 (maybe 4?) different suspension systems - all different principles and complexity/performance.

    The one that Toyota use in 200 series Landcruisers is the simplest and bears no similarity to the highest performance system that was used (now banned) in world rally champ cars.

    The one Toyota use consist of front and rear swaybars that each have a hyd cylinder on one side. By diagonally (top to bottom) connecting the hyd cylinders the swaybars work normally to counter sway during cornering, but offroad when the front and rear axles articulate the diagonal connection of the cylinders give a degree of forced articulation.

    Bill, with the system that uses cylinders at each wheel, there is an accumulator between the diagonally (front to rear) connected cylinders, and from memory a pump in the system as well.

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    This simulation covers it fairly well

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAFIM99aUIw&feature=related]Kinetic Dynamic Suspension System - YouTube[/ame]

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