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    scanfor Guest

    98 Defender headlights

    Evening All

    I've spent today fitting an Auberins EGT to the Deafener, and when i went for a test run I noticed that the headlights aren't working.

    I have traced power to the headlight switch, and it is doing what it should by switching the side lights on at the first click and power for the main lights at the second click.

    From this point, the wiring disappears behind the radio and down to the fusebox.
    According to the circus diagram that I have, the Blue wire (for main lights) should go straight to the fusebox and then out on the LEFT/RIGHT Light fuses.
    I'm not getting power on any of the headlight fuses (either side).

    Sidelights and taillights as well as dash lights are working, and the high beam will flash when the stalk is pulled toward the driver.

    There is a chance that I have dislodged a plug/socket somewhere behind the dash, but a quick visual doesn't reveal anything obvious.

    Can anyone offer suggestions as to what might be the problem please?

    Any help will be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Scott

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    lochie Guest

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    Hi Stanfor.I had similar problems -1997 def.-it turned out to be the headlight relay ,this is located in the fuse box.There are four relays side by side and the decal on the fuse box cover will indicate which one.From memory the relays are inter changeable- so a quick swap may solve the problem.Hope this is of some help.Cheers Lochie

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    I was under the impression that even at this date the Defender did not have headlight relays. In this case the problem is likely to be either the headlight switch itself or the multifunction switch (does High beam flasher work?), and fitting headlight relays is a "good idea". The switches may be repairable or may need replacing.

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    Lochie

    Thanks mate, I already tried that but it didn't help.
    The relay is actually clicking when main beam is selected on the switch, and when the starter key is turned to "ignition".

    JDNSW - it seems to not be the switches as the flash highbeam is working and the headlight switch is operating as it should.

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    More than likely It will be the headlamp switch as JDNSW has stated, they do not have relays on the high OR low beam, (Unless someone has fitted them) and the highbeam flash will work whether the headlamp switch is operational or not. The relay you are hearing is the main lamp control relay, this will come on when ignition is on and parklamps (and then headlamps) are selected.

    To test the blown switch theory, trace the Blue with White trace wire from the multiplug that feeds the dipswitch and apply 12V to it, the headlamps will illuminate (With the ignition on) on low beam, and the Blue wire with red trace is the high beam.


    JC

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    OK, that worked except blue/red was low and blue/white was high - but the main thing is that your theory is right.

    So just to be clear it is the headlight switch that has failed, and not the dipper combination switch?

    Thanks to all who have replied, I am amazed at the generosity of spirit of people on these forums, it is indeed a wonderful resource.

    Regards
    Scott

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    Yes, this test shows that the headlamp main switch has failed, you would be best advised to fit one of these; Headlight Kits

    The difference in brightness and reliability of your headlamp circuit will be unbelievable

    JC

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    Also land rover changed the headlight switch connector from the 95 defender to the 98 defender. The switch is the same but connector different and the 98 one is twice the price of the 95 one. In my 98 defender I have one from a 95 one.

    From the top of my head one is $150 and the other is $70

    Found this out by nicking the unit out of my 95, 90 one weekend when the 98 110 lights failed and need to use it at night. When on Monday I went to order a new one I nearly fell over and so I order a replacement 95 one and cut of the old connector on the old 98 and fitted it to the new headlight switch and fitted to my 98 110. Been on there for a year or so now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reads90 View Post
    Also land rover changed the headlight switch connector from the 95 defender to the 98 defender. The switch is the same but connector different and the 98 one is twice the price of the 95 one. In my 98 defender I have one from a 95 one.

    From the top of my head one is $150 and the other is $70

    Found this out by nicking the unit out of my 95, 90 one weekend when the 98 110 lights failed and need to use it at night. When on Monday I went to order a new one I nearly fell over and so I order a replacement 95 one and cut of the old connector on the old 98 and fitted it to the new headlight switch and fitted to my 98 110. Been on there for a year or so now
    Certainly a good idea, they are after all identical switches, I have done a few like this

    JC

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    Was helping my brother out with his, had the same problem, confusing to say the least. We had swapped the headlight switch, the pink coloured relay behind the dash, turned out to be the highbeam / dip switch.

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