Thread: Carrying kids in the 130

I just got s quote from the only fitter in Darwin. $750 for a bloody bar that he will attach to existing holes in the back. Absolute ripp-off, a special Darwin price.

Ours is a 110 td5 2006. i am so cranky and will not pay such much. What the hell is wrong with using the factory fitted seat beats? They are rated to ""safely" restrain a heavier adult. Why is Australia such a nanny state?

Originally Posted by Bushranger

...Why is Australia such a nanny state?

So fewer kids die in road accidents.

Where's the proof? Other countries aren't so regulated and do not have a higher incidence of road prangs. It is over engineering and the result of dumb and dumber administrators. It is over regulated nonsense.

Originally Posted by Bushranger

Where's the proof? Other countries aren't so regulated and do not have a higher incidence of road prangs. It is over engineering and the result of dumb and dumber administrators. It is over regulated nonsense.

Which country has a lower vehicle safety standards and fewer accidents resulting in death or injury than Australia?

You cant just use a seat belt with a child restraint, the kid would be catapulted through the windscreen in an accident. The way the seat is designed it has to be secured from the top and bottom - a completely different concept to an adult sitting in the seat with the lap-sash belt fitted. That's not over engineered nonsense - its physics.

Your experience has definitely been a standard Darwin one in terms of choice and price. You can buy a CRAB bar (the one you mentioned earlier) from interstate and fit it yourself - they are already engineer approved - this is probably a cheaper option for you and they work fine in the 110s.

Cheers,

Adam

My 'kid seat bar' is a piece of 50 x 50 mm slotted angle bolted to the seat belt anchorages for the 3rd row ( in a county back half )
In a defender you should be able to bolt the bar through the rear arch stiffeners
I then pass the kid seat belts through the cargo barrier.
I must take photos one day
And yes it's not engineered
DC

Where's the proof

Australia has probably the best child restraints in the world. Problem is most are not fitted correctly and many not used correctly. If the standard saves even one child then they are worthwhile.

Even NZ has no requirement for new vehicles to have anchor points

I am bugged by the fact that we don't accept the ISO FIX standard here. It takes away much of the incorrect fitting problem, but can't be retrofitted to old vehicles.

We even have discrepancy with age verses weight as to seat ratings and requirements. My miss 6 is 23kg but has a friend who is 36kg but by law have same seat requirement. I think should be height and weight based not just age.

I have 3 kids and 2 cars. We have just bought our 10th and 11th seats as the kids out grow them at a great rate. While not happy with forking out $300 bucks a time I would not compromise with the kids safety. Looking forward to when they are old and heavy enough to not require them.

My 130 has a bar with mounts that exceeded all the original requirements for the RTA etc but due to the insurance risk did not get engineers approval letter. It did however get the verbal approval of those engineers as being better than the approved ones they had seen. The rules changed after mine was originally fitted requiring access to the clip without tools that made it no longer meet the requirements.

James