Thread: Puma HD Springs Question

Quick Update

I fitted the additional NRC6389 (LHR) on Tuesday and that completely corrected the problem I was having.

Only problem was after my first proper drive (over 50km/h), the front prop shaft was making the normal horrible sounds This was after a gain of 15mm on the LHF and 25mm on the RHF (taller spring). Bit scary that such a tiny change had this effect.

Therefore the front's are back out and am ordering a DC Front Prop Shaft. Was advised by a few people (thanks!) to go for a wide angle prop shaft which is about half the price, but given I would long term like to fit at least longer travel shocks and maybe a larger lift, I think the DC Shaft is a better long term decision.

Thanks.

Another Update

Purchased an "Extreme" DC Front Prop Shaft from Bailey Morris in the UK. Lovely piece of equipment, the difference in angles between the two is significant to say the least. It was reasonably priced and air freighted here within a week. Installed the Prop Shaft and the HD Springs yesterday, fixed the horrible noises I experienced earlier. If you go down the same track don't forget to ensure the prop shaft is full of grease before you use it.

Now with genuine HD springs all around, the problem I have is the front sits about 20mm higher than the front

I'm thinking of go going for my long term plan of a 2 inch lift and 2 inch longer travel shocks. The shock decision seems easy, Terrafirma Big Bores. But which springs? I have had a good read around, but am even more confused.
- OME's seemed to be a well trodden path, but I struggle to find details of which OME springs people use on a 110.
- Has any one used Terrafirma Springs? It would be nice to match springs and shocks I guess?
- Dobinson Springs seem popular.
- Les Richmond Automotive seems to have a very wide range of Spring options. I like their exchange policy until you get the right spring.
- King Springs?

Should I be getting dislocation cones? Read quite a few forums about springs popping out. Spring Retainers?

Do I need to take anything else into consideration? It seems like Brake Lines do not need to be extended with a 2 inch lift nor castor correction arms.

A bit of detail of the kit (items with weight anyway) on my 2011 110 Wagon.
- ARB New Style Bar
- Dual Batteries
- 2m Wind Cheetah Roof Rack
- Draw Setup with about 60kg in it all the time, a bit more for trips.
- 50Lt Fridge on Slider
- 48Lt Water Tank
- Cargo Barrier
- Mulgo Sliders
- Mulgo Bumperettes
- Foxwing Awning
- Planning on getting the 45Lt Side Fuel Tank.
- Normally have about another 100kg - 150kg of gear in the car on a trip, plus people.

Thanks All

Scotty,

I tried the full terrafirma setup and I was very happy with it considering how well it was priced. I sold my Defender in the UK with the full kit to a friend and he is still using it today (3 years later) to tour Scotland and Western Europe with family and camping kit.

Europe is however not Australianad you do get what you pay for (with the exception of a few brands that ride on their perceived good name rather than quality)

Scotty,
what did the add to the prop shaft for freight?. Does it have grease nipples?

thanks

G'Day Newhue,

Freight was 120 pounds to Sydney using DHL.
The Grease Nipples are on each of the Cardinal Joints. They were fully greased on arrival, but its still worth a check, just in case.
The DC Shaft really made the original one look pretty average.

Cheers.

G'day Scotty,

I am in a similar position to you. Similar accessories and looking to do a 2 inch lift. I have also read the threads on here about the issues when lifting a Puma, but I believe there are solutions too.

I am leaning towards going to Les Richmond for the reason you mentioned and in discussing my needs with them. They rate Koni as number one and Billies number 2 - but that both are excellent.

I'm interested in why you are state "The shock decision seems easy, Terrafirma Big Bores".

Whilst I am sure they are a good product, my research on line on this forum, and in discussing with various outlets, the Koni is the first choice, closely followed by Bilstein.

Most people say that Koni is best, but I was told that the Koni Raids may be too harsh for on road by one specialist, and that Bilsteins would suit the Defender better. They also sold both and Billies are cheaper so it was an interesting perspective.

Haven't decided what to do myself yet.

Nigel

I have a 50mm lift on the front with Old man Emu springs, + 50mm Terra-Firms Pro-Sport shocks and TF heavy duty shock towers.

Rear is stock springs, TF Big Bores and Poly-Air bags.

Front prop shaft is Bailey-Morris Extreme DC.

Both front and rear works a treat, nice balance well mannered on road and good articulation off road.

I think Koni's or Billstiens are likely to be the best, but TF are such excellent value they are very hard to go past.

Cheers

G'Day Nigel,

I thought the decision was easy because:
- Found quite a few praises for them on various forums.
- Its hard to find anyone complaining about them, there is obviously always a few though.
- Daniel at Mulgo likes them - which is enough for me on its own

Maybe I jumped to a conclusion too quickly still.

Thanks.