Thread: 2.4L Puma Power ups

Well the positive feedback on Alive's same day prompt service has fallen over dead. 3 days has passed and no reply to my email. There are many reasons I suppose but an out of the office reply could also help.

I'll resend my tune request to BAS and see how it goes.

Holy smokes BAS have good customer service.
Sent and replied all within 1 hour.

It seems however my wish list tune is basically that.

Boost from 1000rpm is impossible as the motor doesn't create enough gas to spin the turbo.
Better economy at 110klm is not going to happen because of the standard factory gearing.
Recommend to stick to original tyre size as lag low down can't be improved.
And if I want to try for 400K+klm out of my donk, change the oil at half the scheduled times. Though I'm not so sure about that as Synthetic oil has come a long way from mineral.

So it seems for me, I'll keep the cash in the pocket. I am left with the impression a remaps is a good thing if you like giving it a bit. However for me I think I am driving slower day by day.

good luck with it all

Go the alive tune, had some experience with a 130 on 33s, atric, and alive intercooler.... Can't believe the difference to a stock one, boost comes on around 1450, and full boost about 1600, power below 2000rpm is very different , no real change in economy but that might be because you feel like driving it harder

Btw had good contact with them via email except when Gary was away at a show....

Nigel, apologies for running away with your question.

some thoughts on chips, or more observations really

Steinbauer have moved there marketing to a flat 20% increase in power and torque these days, no more UPTO % anymore. They also say they have been tested on Australian fuel, as a few years ago this was a regular argument against them wrong or right. Not sure on price but they were dearer than DP when I bought a chip. I have a mate who is happy with his Steinbauer.

Chip-It offer EGT package deals as a better system. Possibly they could be be running the tune pretty hard as others don't market this as much. But I acknowledge many seem to fit this as a monitoring precaution. Again just an observation.

I know in my old jap car with a chip had an intermittent flat spot pre chip, but after fitting the chip Holden used it as a focus point to wriggle out of all the failings.

"Plug and Play" type unit (DP chip, Steinbauer, Chip It etc) will never match a re-tune or flash of the ECU (BAS, Alive etc).

Plug and play system can only modify the amount of fuel supplied and and the duration of the injector opening to the engine as they only connect up to the injectors and modify the messages to the injector sent from the ECU.

Retuned Maps modify the ECU so everything from boost pressure, injector timing, rail pressure and most other aspects that relate of fuel economy and performance can be changed.

Additionally plug and play unit often have a greater impact on EGT due excessive fuel being supplied.

As above,your comparing apples to oranges.One type-Alive-BAS is done by people who know LR's and know what they are doing,the plug and play just adds more fuel and are 50% dearer,go Alive or BAS. Pat

Originally Posted by PAT303

As above,your comparing apples to oranges.One type-Alive-BAS is done by people who know LR's and know what they are doing,the plug and play just adds more fuel and are 50% dearer,go Alive or BAS. Pat

Absolutely the way to go !