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    i never noticed any great increase in economy that i recall but that isn't why i use it...

    it makes the vw run cleaner ie less soot out the back and it has a particulate filter and they are known to carbon up.

    people using the magic elixir have pulled down their filters and they are remarkably cleaner than those out of vehicles that don't use it.

    and it makes a 4bd1 run much sweeter.... i know several people that have had the same experience.

    and brid is on here so maybe ask him in person

    i was using it long before he appeared here btw.
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    Some more background:

    Ferrocene
    Ferrocene - Molecule of the Month June 1996

    Ferrocene

    The discovery and characterisation of the structure of ferrocene, Fe(C5H5)2 in the early 1950's, led to an explosion of interest in d-block metal carbon bonds and brought about development and the now flourishing study of organometallic chemistry.

    Prior to the 1950's few d-block organometallics were synthesized and characterised. The first (1), an ethylene complex of platinum(II), was prepared by W.C. Zeise in 1827. In 1890's Ludwig Mond and co-workers synthesised the first metal carbonyl, tetracarbonynickel (2). However, the structures of such complexes were difficult to deduce using chemical methods, and thus it wasn't until the 1950's when NMR and single crystal X-ray diffraction could be used to solve the structures of these complexes in solution and solid state respectively.

    (1), (2) & (3)


    In 1951, ferrocene (3), was first prepared. It was found to be unusually stable, and its structure and bonding defied conventional bonding descriptions. The sandwich structure of ferrocene was first predicted from its IR and NMR and then confirmed by X-ray crystallography by 1954.

    The rapid growth in the study of organometallic compounds by research groups around the world led to the Nobel Prize awarded in 1974 to Ernst Fisher and Geoffrey Wilkinson1 for their contribution to the field.

    G. Wilkinson J. Organometal. Chem. 100, 273 (1975) - describes a personal account of the early discoveries in organometallic chemistry.

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    Fuel Performance Catalyst - Technical Bulletins (The manufactuer of FPC / FTC)
    Ferrocene: A Smokeless Additive

    Ferrocene is an iron-based additive discovered in the early 1950's. It is an unusually stable orange crystalline solid with a formula of FeC10H10 (heat of decomposition 465 ºC). The compound is soluble in common organic solvents and stable towards acids and bases [1].

    One of the most important applications for ferrocene is its use as an additive for promoting the smokeless combustion of fuels. Comparatively low concentrations of ferrocene have a marked effect upon carbon formation, and appear to catalyze the oxidation of soot. Further, ferrocene has demonstrated antiknock properties for use in fuels for spark-ignition engines [1].

    The action of an antiknock additive such as ferrocene is the opposite needed for efficient compression-ignition where rapid flame formation and propagation is vital. An antiknock compound will slow flame development by absorbing heat from the flame front, an effect that is undesirable and deleterious to fuel efficiency in a heavy-duty diesel engine. This effect could cause the engine to consume more fuel in order to produce the needed power. This action might also lead to increases in oxides of nitrogen (NOx) as the increase in fuel input causes increased combustion gas temperature.

    Ferrocene has been evaluated for its effect upon fuel efficiency and economy by Southwest Research Institute, the US Bureau of Mines, and the University of Minnesota. These studies confirm that the antiknock properties of ferrocene lead to increased fuel consumption and NOx emissions, while having a positive effect upon soot removal and oxidation.

    Southwest Research Institute tested ferrocene in the early 1980s. The study was conducted in a gas turbine engine. The additive was tested to determine it's affect upon flame radiation (fuel efficiency) and soot formation. The study determined ferrocene had a dramatic effect upon the oxidation and removal of soot, but had no measurable effect upon combustion efficiency. The study did not determine the effect of ferrocene upon particle size or mass. It was also discovered that ferrocene oxidized to form iron oxide. The iron oxide coated the exposed combustion chamber components forming a red rouge. The rouge could act as a polishing agent, and in high concentrations, could create excessive wear to valve stems. The rouge buildup can probably be prevented with the use of a detergent additive [2].

    The University of Minnesota study determined the addition of ferrocene had a negative impact upon fuel consumption. The study was intended to show ferrocene created greater improvements in specific fuel consumption (faster heat release and higher mean effective pressure) and soot particle reduction over time, as the engine conditioned or was coated with reactive iron. The ferrocene additized diesel fuel showed an immediate increase in specific fuel consumption of 4%. The specific fuel consumption remained greater than the baseline diesel fuel for one of the test engines, regardless of ferrocene concentration. Fuel consumption for the second engine appeared to return to a point near that of baseline diesel fuel after ferrocene concentration was reduced. The University of Minnesota study also showed ferrocene produces soot particles that are smaller, but greater in number (6 to 9 fold increase in ultrafines). No change in particulate mass was observed, and NOx emissions were increased [3].

    A third study confirms the findings of those mentioned above. This was done by the US Bureau of Mines. Test results show the addition of ferrocene to diesel fuel caused increases in carbon dioxide (CO2) of 2% to 8%, and increases in NOx of 12%, with an associate decline in oxygen (O2) [4]. These data indicate increases in fuel consumption. As more fuel is introduced into the engine, more O2 is needed to combine with the fuel hydrocarbons, producing greater concentrations of CO2 and lower concentrations of O2 in the exhaust gases. This would of necessity generate higher combustion temperatures leading to increases in NOx. The increase in the fuel-air ratio of 3% observed during the ferrocene treated test confirms this [4].

    The exhaust gas concentration changes were also confirmed by the trend toward increasing brake specific fuel consumption the longer the engine was operated on ferrocene treated fuel [4]. The test engine was examined after 250 hours of running on ferrocene treated diesel and a layer of ferric oxide that was resistant to scratching had collected on the combustion chamber components.

    These studies confirm ferrocene to have both antiknock and smokeless additive properties. One action appears to be detrimental to fuel efficiency in compression-ignition engines, while the second action has no effect on efficiency as it takes place post combustion.

    Ferrocene is the active ingredient for a number of additive brands. In the past, these have included additives sold by Econalytic Systems, Parish Chemical, Octel/Starreon and Exxon/Nalco. Some brand names include Satacen, Octimax, Catane and Ferox

    The active ingredient for FPC® Fuel Performance Catalyst is also iron-based, but is not a ferrocene. Unlike ferrocene, FPC® readily decomposes to form free radicals or ions that initiate faster flame development. No heat is absorbed from the flame front and rather than slow flame propagation, like antiknock additives, flame development is enhanced. Studies by Southwest Research Institute, Brigham Young University, Automotive Testing Laboratories, and a number of international testing institutions confirm the use of FPC® will reduce fuel consumption as much as 9%. These same independent tests show FPC® reduces the emissions of CO2, carbon monoxide, unburned hydrocarbons, and particulates with no increase in NOx.

    FPC® also functions to reduce engine smoking by inhibiting the formation of particle precursors, and/or preventing the nucleation of these particle precursors. And the oxidized iron exiting the engine remains in close association with the lower soot concentrations that form, catalyzing the oxidation of the soot at lower exhaust temperatures. The net result is a more fuel efficient and cleaner system throughout.
    References

    Rausch, Marvin, Vogel, Martin, and Rosenberg, Harold, Ferrocene: A Novel Organometallic Compound, Journal of Chemical Education.
    Conversation between the author and Mr. David Naegli and Mr. Vernon Markworth, SwRI, 1993.
    Du, C.J., Kracklauer, J. and Kittelson, D.B., Influence of an Iron Fuel Additive on Diesel Combustion, SAE Paper 980536, 1998.
    Zeller, William H., and Westphal, T.E., Effectiveness of Iron-Based Additives for Diesel Soot Control, US Bureau of Mines, RI 9438, 1992.
    Carbon oxidation generated in diesel engines using iron-doped fuel
    Author(s): Schulz, GAS (Schulz, G. A. S.)1; Tamborim, S (Tamborim, S.)2; Cardoso, G (Cardoso, G.)1; Santos, T (Santos, T.)1; Lissner, E (Lissner, E.)1; Cataluna, R (Cataluna, R.)1
    Source: GREEN CHEMISTRY Volume: 14 Issue: 2 Pages: 514-518 DOI: 10.1039/c2gc16147h Published: 2012
    Times Cited: 0 (from Web of Science)
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    Abstract: The soot oxidation activity of metallic iron nanoparticles was studied under real diesel engine conditions. Particulate matter (PM) was sampled at distinct temperatures, using fuels containing ferrocene. The results indicated an 80% reduction of accumulated PM using fuels doped with 50 ppm ferrocene at a temperature of 460 degrees C. Temperature-programmed catalytic oxidation tests indicated that PM oxidation in ferrocene-doped fuels starts at an approximately 200 degrees C lower temperature. The transmission electron microscopy (TEM) analysis of the PM revealed that soot agglomerates with and without the presence of Fe showed a similar morphology and that the average diameter of iron nanoparticles is 10 nm. The use of ferrocene-doped diesel fuels increases the speed of PM oxidation significantly, enabling the filter to self-regenerate at the average temperature of the exhaust gases. Moreover, 500 ppm of sulfur in fuels does not reduce the catalytic activity of iron nanoparticles in PM oxidation.
    EDIT - since this stuff is basically an iron nanoparticle catalyst, it would be interesting to see if the iron in oil analysis goes up by a measurable amount whilst using it???


    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
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    Thanks Inc - however statements like that make me worry, and set the snake oil alarms going off!!! (however ferrocene and its derivatives have been proven to catalytically reduce soot formation)

    Brid's website has the least tech and the most testimonials of any of the FTC resellers! So I doubt he could help me with info...

    EDIT 2 - the patents. Alan Elliott lists his address as South Melbourne.
    A fuel additive containing ferrous picrate produced by a process comprising placing an enclosed iron containing metallic source in a solution of picric acid in a solvent that reacts with iron to produce ferrous picrate. Enclosure of the iron containing metallic source is accomplished with an isolating material. Enclosure may be achieved by completely surrounding the iron containing metallic source with the isolating material or by installing a filter comprising the isolating material on the downstream or the upstream side of a vessel holding the iron containing metallic source and through which the picric acid and liquid containing the picric acid are circulated. If the iron containing metallic source has been completely surrounded, it is placed into the solution. The solution may be agitated. If a filter or filters are utilized, the solution is circulated through the vessel holding the iron containing metallic source.
    Inventors: Alan Frederick Elliott, David M. Stewart, George Riegel
    Original Assignee: RDI Construction
    Primary Examiner: Porfirio Nazario-Gonzalez
    Attorney: TraskBritt
    Current U.S. Classification: 556/150; 44/323; 44/367
    International Classification: C07F/1502; C10L/122

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    US5359103 May 27, 1992 Oct 25, 1994 FPC Australia, Inc. Manufacture of ferrous picrate
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    US5925153 Mar 9, 1998 Jul 20, 1999 Process for producing ferrous picrate and a fuel additive containing ferrous picrate
    US6670495 May 16, 2002 Dec 30, 2003 Process for producing ferrous picrate and a fuel additive containing ferrous picrate from wire
    US20030213166 May 16, 2002 Fuel additive containing ferrous picrate produced by a process utilizing wire
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    Patent Number Filing date Issue date Original Assignee Title
    US7157593 Dec 23, 2003 Jan 2, 2007 RDI Construction Ferrous picrate produced by a process utilizing a non-powdered metallic iron
    US7335238 Jul 27, 2004 Feb 26, 2008 RDI Construction Method for producing ferrous picrate
    Claims

    1. A process for producing ferrous picrate, the process comprising:

    placing a non-powdered metallic iron in a solution comprising picric acid.

    2. The process according to claim 1, further comprising:

    agitating the solution comprising the picric acid and the non-powdered metallic iron.

    3. The process according to claim 1, wherein the solution comprising the picric acid is produced by a process comprising:

    dissolving the picric acid in a solvent selected from the group consisting of aromatic solvents, high aromatic petroleum fractions, and combinations thereof;
    agitating the solvent including the dissolved picric acid;
    removing water from the solvent including the dissolved picric acid;
    adding an aliphatic alcohol to the solvent including the dissolved picric acid;
    agitating the solvent including the dissolved picric acid and the aliphatic alcohol;
    adding 0.1 to 0.5 percent water to the solvent including the dissolved picric acid and the aliphatic alcohol; and
    agitating the solvent including the dissolved picric acid, the aliphatic alcohol and the 0.1 to 0.5 percent water to produce the solution for producing the ferrous picrate.

    4. The process according to claim 1, wherein the non-powdered metallic iron is selected from the group consisting of filings, objects, particles, nails, wire, steel wool, and combinations of any thereof.

    5. The process according to claim 1, further comprising:

    placing the non-powdered metallic iron in an isolating material.

    6. The process according to claim 5, wherein the isolating material is selected from the group consisting of cotton cloth, stainless steel, polyester, polyethylene, polypropylene, polyester and polypropylene, and combinations of any thereof.

    7. A process for producing a fuel additive containing ferrous picrate, the process comprising:

    enclosing an iron containing metallic source in an isolating material; and
    placing the enclosed iron containing metallic source in a solution for producing the ferrous picrate.

    8. The process according to claim 7, wherein the iron containing metallic source is non-powdered.

    9. The process according to claim 7, wherein the iron containing metallic source is in a form selected from the group consisting of filings, objects, particles, nails, wire, steel wool, and combinations of any thereof.

    10. The process according to claim 7, wherein the iron containing metallic source is cast iron.

    11. The process according to claim 7, wherein the enclosing comprises surrounding the iron containing metallic source with the isolating material.

    12. The process according to claim 7, further comprising:

    agitating the solution containing the enclosed iron containing metallic source.

    13. The process according to claim 7, wherein:

    the enclosing comprises placing the iron containing metallic source in a vessel having a first filter comprising the isolating material on a downstream side; and
    the placing the enclosed iron containing metallic source in the solution for producing ferrous picrate comprises circulating the solution for producing the ferrous picrate through the vessel.

    14. The process according to claim 13, wherein:

    the vessel further comprises a second filter comprising the isolating material on an upstream side.

    15. The process according to claim 7, wherein the isolating material is selected from the group consisting of cotton cloth, stainless steel, polyester, polyethylene, polypropylene, polyester and polypropylene, and combinations of any thereof.

    16. The process according to claim 7, wherein the solution for producing the ferrous picrate comprises picric acid.

    17. The process according to claim 7, wherein:

    the solution for producing the ferrous picrate is produced by a process comprising:
    dissolving picric acid in a solvent selected from the group consisting of aromatic solvents, high aromatic petroleum fractions, and combinations thereof;
    agitating the solvent including the dissolved picric acid;
    removing water from the solvent including the dissolved picric acid;
    adding an aliphatic alcohol to the solvent including the dissolved picric acid;
    agitating the solvent including the dissolved picric acid and the aliphatic alcohol;
    adding 0.1 to 0.5 percent water to the solvent including the dissolved picric acid and the aliphatic alcohol; and
    agitating the solvent including the dissolved picric acid, the aliphatic alcohol and the 0.1 to 0.5 percent water to produce the solution for producing the ferrous picrate.

    18. The process according to claim 17, the process further comprising:

    adding a pre-mix solution to the solvent including the dissolved picric acid, the aliphatic alcohol, and the 0.1 to 0.5 percent water, wherein the pre-mix solution is produced by the process comprising:
    dissolving picric acid in another fraction of solvent selected from the group consisting of aromatic solvents, high aromatic petroleum fractions, and combinations thereof;
    removing water from the another fraction of the solvent having the dissolved picric acid; and
    adding an aliphatic alcohol to the another fraction of the solvent having the dissolved picric acid, such that a resulting solution comprises about 1.9 percent free picric acid and about 15 to 16 percent of the aliphatic alcohol.

    19. The process according to claim 7, wherein the isolating material comprises stainless steel screening of approximately 200 mesh.
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    I had the opportunity to speak with Brid directly in relation to some of what has come up in this thread (Brid is the distributor of CEM additives). Brid has given me permission to make these comments public, so here is his answer in relation to the following statement.....

    "I'm always a little concerned with oil and fuel additives on how corrosive they can be. Obviously most solvent based oil flushes reduce the lubricity of the oil, and fuel additives can be very corrosive to bearings with normal blow-by of the rings. I have first hand knowledge of this with BP's Diesel-Go diesel treatment. Our oil analysis numbers spiked badly after using this in two engines, something I've never had happen with Redline diesel treatments.

    With oil flushes I prefer an ester based flush, as it is a lubricant as well as a detergent, but these are really hard to come by in Oz and they don't have the immediate shock power of a strong solvent, which can be an advantage in a badly sludged engine as they take a few thousand km to do their job."......


    He replied....."I am aware that some types of additives can cause copper corrosion, however, none of ours do. We steer well clear of solvent type technology. All products have been in field use for over 2 decades, with no reports of such problems."

    Further, he has provided 2 oil test reports from 2 different vehicle types using these additives. Both appear to demonstrate no abnormal iron levels after using CEM addditives....

    1) An old pre-combustion type HiAce diesel....
    2) A 3l Patrol direct electronic injection diesel...

    I have asked if he has any oil tests specific to his Puma. I'll post up mine when I get them done.
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    Some further dialogue between Brid and myself, which Brid is happy for me to make public......In relation to Blknight.aus' comment ("....your CRP and injectors are going to love that stuff....") earlier in this thread regarding injectors and the Puma's common rail pump, which I assume were inferring some detriment to both, Brid comments....

    "I have a markedly different opinion on CRD equipment. I believe the fuel quality here is nowhere as good as European fuel & it also varies a lot. (Several years ago, Honda were on the verge of bring in CRD Accords into Australia, but they canned it. I suspect because of the fuel quality here.) CRD’s require very clean fuel, and can be fouled easily by small amounts of contaminant. Fuel temperatures are also higher, which can accelerate degradation (& deposits). This makes them poor candidates for biodiesel use. A fuel additive, that keeps injection equipment clean & disperses finely any contaminants forming will be beneficial long term, as will attention to filters."

    In relation to oil tests on his 07 Puma, which has run these additives since new.....

    "I routinely test my Defender’s oil, with a machine that measures the oil’s dielectric (conductivity) properties, which are altered by contaminants. If I see anything abnormal, I then have a lab analysis done. So far, I haven’t needed to do this on mine."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scallops View Post
    ... a machine that measures the oil’s dielectric (conductivity) properties, which are altered by contaminants. If I see anything abnormal, I then have a lab analysis done. So far, I haven’t needed to do this on mine."[/B][/I]

    I have had quite a bit of experience with electrical resistance/capacitance measurement in oils. IME the devices are very crude and no substitute for oil analysis.

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