Thread: TD5 or PUMA? The perpetual question!

Originally Posted by MLD

Re 2.4 Puma - what i'm about to write is antidotal based on my engine failure and paying attention to posts others describe which are similar. There are about a dozen examples (that i'm aware of) of the bosch injectors failing around the 100,000 to 150,000 kms mark. LR switched to siemens injectors around MY13 and i haven't seen any complaints for that injector. I asked Baileys Diesel Group if i can swap to the siemens and was told no. about $400 each for OEM, $350 for Baileys Diesel blue printed injectors. Not a huge problem but expensive if symptoms are ignore or an injector goes without notice (as most do)

Which is the better - OEM or Baileys ??

Also, I was told from MR Auto that the injectors are about $1000 each which was a bit scary.... I'm assuming one could buy overseas if one needed to?

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Did your split intercooler cause a whistle, particularly when accelerating in the lower gears?

Hi Mick
No, It took them about 2 weeks to find the split, They gave me a loaner and a mechanic (who is now an independent here now) drove it home
and back trying to find the source of the MIL fault. It only seemed to do it on max boost, like when he would almost stop and the 1st gear pull ,
hard pull up a driveway would only sometimes make it fault out. It was a 2nd smoke test that found the split and I was told the flimsy aluminium
would flex open, then closed again when boost was applied. That was their story and they stuck to it.
Cheers Ian

Originally Posted by ezyrama

Hi Mick
No, It took them about 2 weeks to find the split, They gave me a loaner and a mechanic (who is now an independent here now) drove it home
and back trying to find the source of the MIL fault. It only seemed to do it on max boost, like when he would almost stop and the 1st gear pull ,
hard pull up a driveway would only sometimes make it fault out. It was a 2nd smoke test that found the split and I was told the flimsy aluminium
would flex open, then closed again when boost was applied. That was their story and they stuck to it.
Cheers Ian

I know of 2 others that had a split at the join of the plastic to aluminium on the intercooler.

Robmacca, google Bailey Diesel and see for yourself. They sell OEM and their blueprinted recon injectors. Which are better? Some on this forum say the Bosch injector is problematic (i can't use the word ****) so new or recon might not give you much comfort either way. Personally i had positive experience with Bailey Diesel and would buy their recon unit. As for $1,000 an injector. The TD5 injectors were the price of gold a few years ago but seem to be more affordable now. Supply and demand doesn't put the puma injector in the same boat as the TD5 injector.