Thread: Puma Air Box Seal - Advice Pls

Some time ago I sealed all the piping on my Puma, every joint and every air vent (the original install was completely useless). I also glued some double lip seals on the lid of the airbox.
If I cover up the snorkel the engine certainly starts to labour, but does not stall as I would have expected, so it must still be getting air from somewhere

Frank

Originally Posted by cal415

N ugget on here is working on doing some kind of kit to replace the factory ducting i beleive? that could be worth a look, but it doesnt include the factory airbox. But in my experience with some deep water crossings recently i made very sure the pipework was well sealed and the air box seemed to seal up well enough when i blocked the top of the snorkel with my hand nearly eating my hand.

That's great news, I will see if I have time over the weekend to pull it apart. Having a look on the net last night there seems to be two versions of the safari snorkel, the older type which seals to the panel and the current model which attaches directly to the existing air intake.

Wayne (Nugge t) is working on a replacement ducting set up from the guard to the air box and his work is first rate. It includes an alloy replacement for the small air box on the inside of the guard. It will still rely on the snorkel sealing against the guard thou.

I have also used a foam based sealing tape on the inside of the air box lid, I put a plastic bag over the snorkel the engine labours but still runs. A friend tried it on his pootrol and the engine stalled. - So yes it is still getting somewhere - Air box lid is my guess.

Originally Posted by chook73

the older type which seals to the panel and the current model which attaches directly to the existing air intake.

I think the older type you refer to is actually the newer type and has already been discontinued.

6 months ago a followed up on it and spoke directly to Safari.

You can tell the difference as the new discontinued version has the bolts/ holes exposed to the outside of the guard.

I've just had this exact same thing with the Puma I've just bought. I saw the filter seal showing so I removed the filter and it was wet from a recent downpour so I bought a new one and complained to the stealer who'd done the last service.
They immediately gave me another new filter and checked for dust in the inlet (there was none as I'd checked before them) and gave the vehicle a general check over.
I found the way to fit these so there's no seal showing anywhere is to take the pipe off the filter leaving just the lid free. Then slide the filter box top and filter in at an angle towards you and under the fender, the end of the filter will hit the far edge of the box but you then push the filter paper in and it just slips down completely into the box.
The 2 clips are the latched on and the thing is completely sealed with no seal showing.

Originally Posted by Drover

Wayne (Nugge t) is working on a replacement ducting set up from the guard to the air box and his work is first rate. It includes an alloy replacement for the small air box on the inside of the guard. It will still rely on the snorkel sealing against the guard thou.

I have also used a foam based sealing tape on the inside of the air box lid, I put a plastic bag over the snorkel the engine labours but still runs. A friend tried it on his pootrol and the engine stalled. - So yes it is still getting somewhere - Air box lid is my guess.

May I ask what purpose the small air box serves?

So grant are you saying that the newer type is the one that seals to the panel and that one has been discontinued?

Other way around.
The type that seals to the guard is the current and only type available.

They had a new style, but was found to be defective ???, and was discontinued.

The discontinued version looks better and that is why I was chasing it.

The purpose of the small air box on the inside of the guard is to catch and disperse any water that finds its way down the snorkel - I think.

Mine has been removed for 2 years without an issue or water in the air box.

I read your post on Nugge t build thread. Being able to attach the pipe directly to the snorkel is the best solution bar none.

I will let you know how I go when I talk to Daniel tomorrow, fingers crossed.

With the Sy-Klone, a properly welded snorkel and Nuggets (fingers crossed) air box it should actually be a waterproof system.

Here is a link to the silicone hoses ARE Cooling (Aluminium Radiators & Engineering P/L)

They may be an option as well although it would be more joins with the bend fittings.