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    looking at Puma...

    I am looking at getting back into a defender again,

    Last one was a '98 110.

    I would like any info on the puma's in a nutshell...
    --by that which is the preferred option 2.4 or 2.2 ?

    I currently have a 3litre nissan pootrol with the grenade motor which has
    already done the grenade part without warning at 170,000 k.

    I am up to $9000+ and not happy at all, it will probably be perfectly ok
    but I want to go back to a landy, what I cannot afford to do is buy a
    model that will dud... if it does I reckon the "minister for war and finance" (my wife) will veto any further newer products ftom solihull....

    so this is important!!

    Any advice appreciated.. (right now looking at $38k max + the trade in if its a yard.. that will possibly go up as time passes and we can save some.)

    Cheers
    Digger
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    Hi Digger,

    Can't comment on the 2.2 as mine is a 2.4 but I think they have the same power/torque figures anyway. It has been a great little engine and overall the car has been 100%. Got the usual Diff swap in the early days and no further issues with it.

    I think for $38K you'll be looking at the 2.4's just because the newer 2.2's will be in the higher price bracket.

    If you want to go for a burn in one and you are down in Adelaide just let me know. You're welcome to see what a 2007 model looks like in terms of age and take it out an a few local tracks to see how it's held up.

    Cheers
    David

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    Hi Digger,

    Can't comment on the 2.2 as mine is a 2.4 but I think they have the same power/torque figures anyway. It has been a great little engine and overall the car has been 100%. Got the usual Diff swap in the early days and no further issues with it.

    I think for $38K you'll be looking at the 2.4's just because the newer 2.2's will be in the higher price bracket.

    If you want to go for a burn in one and you are down in Adelaide just let me know. You're welcome to see what a 2007 model looks like in terms of age and take it out an a few local tracks to see how it's held up.

    Cheers
    David
    Cheers,
    I am hoping to go thru a car yard and get @18k on mine as trade,
    and willing to travel interstate if I have to!!

    The front diff replacement "the usual" - how do I know if the change has
    been done?, do l/r still "yellow dot" stuff when its done?

    and what if its not been done.... I dont need another grenade!

    cheers!
    (REMLR 235/MVCA 9) 80" -'49.(RUST), -'50 & '52. (53-parts) 88" -57 s1, -'63 -s2a -GS x 2-"Horrie"-112-769, "Vet"-112-429(-Vietnam-PRE 1ATF '65) ('66, s2a-as UN CIVPOL), Hans '73- s3 109" '56 s1 x2 77- s3 van (gone)& '12- 110

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    Diff swap was the rear (Front diffs are more the domain of L322s).

    The early PUMAs all got done on recall, as there was some machining or material quality issue. They will have all been done by now.

    I've bought 4 or 5 cars interstate as the choice here in SA is much more limited. As long as the paperwork matches the VIN/Engine it is no great dramas going through Regency Park.

    Good luck finding one. We love ours!

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    Hi Digger, I pick up my 2.2 next week from the dealers. (see the JP's 130 thread) so if you wanted to test drive that you are more than welcome. I bought mine from Mac's in Millicent and they have been fantastic, I looked at the option of buying from interstate and the other dealers however Mac's were still cheaper. What model are you looking at buying? 110, 130? At that sort of money plus the trade in is about the cost of a new 110.

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    w ma

    I have a 2.2 110 had it about 3 months. Very happy so far.
    Lindsay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    Diff swap was the rear (Front diffs are more the domain of L322s).

    The early PUMAs all got done on recall, as there was some machining or material quality issue
    . They will have all been done by now.

    I've bought 4 or 5 cars interstate as the choice here in SA is much more limited. As long as the paperwork matches the VIN/Engine it is no great dramas going through Regency Park.

    Good luck finding one. We love ours!

    Spudboy are you sure there is a recall for the rear diff????? many had them changed due to failure but I cant say I have heard of a recall, not to say it didnt happen though.

    there was a recall for a seal in the transfer case if I remember....
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    My 2007 Puma 2.4 has original front and rear diffs, 54,000km and no diff recall that I know of although quite a few suffered problems in the early days of this model. The diffs in mine are silent although maybe I can't hear them over the rumble of the KM'2s.

    Check prospective vehicles in the 2.4,s for clutch update (if replaced due to rattly springs), transfer case output seal replacement, fuel tank breather extension left hand side rear wheel arch, vacuum pump change (as many died early- although mine is still original) and EGR valve operation. Rear high level brake light failure has been noted due to faulty wiring in the glass, and look for corrosion on front windscreen frame. Not too much to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dullbird View Post
    Spudboy are you sure there is a recall for the rear diff????? many had them changed due to failure but I cant say I have heard of a recall, not to say it didnt happen though.

    there was a recall for a seal in the transfer case if I remember....
    Ahhh - maybe it wasn't a recall... It seemed to happen to just about every early one but maybe the recall I am thinking of was the one on L322s (front diff).

    Also - I just remembered - I had the Vacuum Air Pump replaced under warranty too as it was seeping a bit of oil. Some people had spectacular oil showers from theirs (Scallops??).

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    I bought an ex Qld Government (Forestry Dept most likely) Puma 2.4 130 dual cab . It had 75000k on it when I bought it 3 months ago and now it has 93000. Apart from a settled left hand front spring I've had no other problems. The spring was settled when I bought it- it was picked up by RACQ but was deemed not to be a major issue. Both front springs have been replaced at 85000 or 3 weeks ago. The only difference between a 2.2 and a 2.4 seems to be the cubic capacity, and it seems the only reason they've even played with the engine is for emissions to meet whatever Euro spec they're up to now. The little motor seems to have as much pull as any other 4wd ute going around except it's able to carry a lot more in a lot more difficult terrain. With 500litres of diesel in the tray and a heap of tools and other earthmoving related gear, it more than keeps up with a V8 Cruiser, so power and ride is not an issue.....but we all knew that. It hangs on nearly as well as my turboed Isuzu except at lower revs. As for inherant or ongoing problems, i can't comment- haven't had any. So very un-Landrover!!! Hope this helps, or sways you

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