My D2 fix was Osram Nightbreaker Extreme bulbs from Germany (legal wattage but much cleaner, brighter white light) and Super Cibie Oscars. Great combo. Had them for years. Legal and sweet driving. Cheers
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My D2 fix was Osram Nightbreaker Extreme bulbs from Germany (legal wattage but much cleaner, brighter white light) and Super Cibie Oscars. Great combo. Had them for years. Legal and sweet driving. Cheers
Thanks Pat,
I'm staying with the old Cibies until a rock goes through them.
One of them dates back to the mid nineties in the ex's GQ, when she got the GU in '01 they went in the Defender (i put Super Oscars on her Patrol to compensate) and twelve months later a rock took one out so I've had a good run out of them.
[QUOTE=rick130;2396573]Thanks Pat,
I'm staying with the old Cibies until a rock goes through them.
/QUOTE]
But this thread is about LED headlights, not spotties etc...
Spots are another story, and I doubt LED wouldnt even come close.
Get focused Rick :)
[quote=karlz;2396662]Umm, Pat and I are talking headlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick130
I have Cibie Z beams. 7" round, take H4 globes ;-)
I wanted to know how the LED's compared to what has been the standard in 7" headlights for the last forty years.
Just another thought....
I just saw a few references to significant electronics issues being seen by some with late-model cars. From as mild as a TPMS not working correctly or the odd warning light or major radio interference to safety devices not working (ESC/TC) and electric assisted active steering going haywire (ie. your car tries to actively drive off the road... scary) when aftermarket, non-compliant HID systems have been fitted. This could also be true of LED or any other device, but HIDs are generally more likely due to the high voltages and active arc involved. Given the greater level of electronics eeking their way into even the 'basic' LR product it may be worth looking into before altering any system that could potentially emit RF signals and/or interfere with your vehicle's sensitive electronics. Again, you are pretty safe with anything e-mark or ADR (or equivalent) as part of that certification process includes wide-spectrum measuring and assessing of emissions and other sources of interference.
For one example please refer near the bottom of the page (the last two paragraphs before the "Please Note") in the following link - Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
On a Lexus forum, an experience quoted after the fitment of an aftermarket HID kit -
"Then...
Last night out of nowhere, I hop in my car as usual to leave work and as soon as I touch the steering wheel this (see video below) happens:
I cant even begin to explain how powerful the motor is that controls the p/s. Every time I opposed the direction it was turning, it would violently disagree and do 180 degrees in the opposite direction. I could barely keep the wheel still i If wanted to. If I was an old lady, the steering wheel could have easily broken my arm/wrist...
Read more: http://www.clublexus.com/forums/is-2nd-gen-2006-2013/466736-p-s-power-steering-out.html#ixzz3h9CnVJQr"
I must admit that wasn't something I had considered could be an effect of these conversions as safety systems are generally pretty well-shielded and/or robust against interference. You live and learn...
Hi DiscoClax - This definitely applies to some vehicles, particularly those with hi tech electronics. My experience is that tdci defenders (while considered full of electrickery for a defender) are not hi tech in the world of general modern day motor vehicles (Lexus, hacked Jeeps, etc ) :)
T'was intended more as a general warning for those with more 'sophisticated' vehicles, rather than specific to Defos.... at least up to this generation thereof.
Currently looking into the LED replacements as well for a 2013 Defender 90.
Saw these on eBay:
LED Pair 7" Headlight Land Rover Defender 40W Landrover Projector Head Light | eBay
Anyone had or heard of anything similar?
I don't care much for the 'look' of LEDs, just want functionality & increased performance.
Cheers.
I have LED headlights in my Rangie, replacing IPF inserts. I got muddy water in one of the headlights, hence the need to change.Quote:
Originally Posted by rick130
I think if I had my time again I wouldn't bother with the LED lights. They are OK, but I don't think they are as good as good quality (the important part!) halogen headlights.
Thats what I ended up doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJon
I replaced the standard Halogens with some Philips 130's Xtreme.
< $100, the lights are significantly better.
Also, dont forget, white lights = not good for vision.
Most people dont know, including myself at the time, that the bright white lights look great on the car, but for penetration especially when its wet and rainy (please no puns), off white are better for vision.