Thread: DC100,from LRO

Originally Posted by skuilnaam

Amazingly, when we look at all we need it often varies greatly from what we want or perceive we need.

Those who whack on about the workhorse toughness of a Defender...
So many people who have them never actually use that much of their capability.

Or the Mechano set BS - Yeah.. Righto... I pull mine apart all the time...

Its like needing a 3500kg 'Griswold Family Road blocker' or key-less entry because my poor finger cant press a freakin button!

A good current example:
Theres a few forum members doing 'The Cape' at the moment...
One party has a TDCi Defender, another Party a D4... Unsure of the rest..

Both are enjoying themselves immensely, and both are driving exactly the same tracks!!!!! The toughness of the D4 and the little TDCi seems sound... But the D4 will be a lot less dusty inside

So WHAT if this concept vehicle is made of moulded parts... The thin tin plate and aluminium pressed parts of an older version dont make the vehicle any stronger than a composite based vehicle.

NOW.. It is fine if YOU dont like the concepts shape etc... IF or WHEN it becomes a reality then its easy - Just don't purchase one...

Me - I currently have a D4, but I've had all the others....
I didnt need all the features my base model TDV6 has but they are nice.

What I did need, was a reliable, safe vehicle for my family with 4wd capability. I like LR and this vehicle fit the bill nicely. I really do love it.

And whilst I'm a LR fan through and through, I don't wear blinkers or fear technology.. I've embraced the technology and learned how to handle it (as well as mechanical failure) - the only difference between 20 years ago and now is my toolbox contains Diagnostic gear!


This whole "Anti Modern Anything" rubbish just wears thin!

If we weren't an overly ridiculous Capitalist, Consumerist society then we wouldn't need so much material stuff..

We wouldn't feel the need (actually a WANT) to continually have the latest consumer wallet emptier.

But modern society want fancy new gadgets, which drives innovation, which LR is at the forefront of in many cases...

So until we as consumers DEMAND rebuild-able, serviceable, reliable products... (But we don't.... We buy cheap disposable stuff...)
And just enjoy what we have, not keep WANTING the latest and greatest...

The you will see these changes and concepts keep coming...

Your too smart to be on this 4wd actio/overlande/explor/errr what forum are we on?,hang on,this is AULRO,the forum for smart people who don't carry on with ''my mate said'' rubbish . Pat

Originally Posted by scarry

When i bought one of the first D2's in 1999,everyone said it was full of electronic crap that would play up etc,etc.After having three D2's,all bought new,and 13 years later.

With 3 D2's in 13 years, what km,s did you get to before trading up? Not everyone can afford, or want , to trade up every 4 or five years. I'll stand corrected if I'm wrong, but the D3 has a timing belt change as part of its maintainence routines at 7 years or 105,000 miles, with 2 belts , one front , one back, and I'm led to believe changing the front one is very expensive. So, is the go trade up the D3 every 5 or 6 years to pass the cost on to someone else. I don't mean to be pedantic, [ but I probably am ] but I ask the question, how many D3 & D4 owners do most of their own servicing, and has anyone calculated the cost of dealer servicing over the life of the vehicles ? At $100 / hour, in Brisbane, [ god knows how much in remote areas, even if you could find a LR dealer/ mechanic] it all adds up. Having said that, I'm happy now with my 1999 D2, with 349,000 km's on it, but only because I've taken the time to try to understand the workings of the vehicle, have a diagnostic machine, have the RAVE DVD, and the AULRO website. I also carry, apart from the usual hoses etc all vehicles should carry, some of the engine management bits & pieces that are showstoppers [ main & fuel pump relays, Crank position gizmos] just for peace of mind. Never had to use one yet, but wouldn't go without them. Now with the new defender looking like it is catering for the yuppie set, a 300 TDI or Isuzu defender looks even better. rant over, I'm out of breath Bob