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    Another tyre question !

    HI GUYS !
    Its time for me to put new rubber on my Defer ! At the moment I have got 7.50-16 tyre on it and I want to up grade rims and tires . The rims will be 7x16 black sunrasia and the tyre will be maybe 235/85/16 , 245/75/16 or 265/75/16 . Which one of those tyre sizes is best for the Defer which wont rub while turning or touch anything under the guard and break something because of its size . Also my Defer has a small lift and I tour a lot .

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    235/85/16 is the standard size for the defender - these shouldn't rub depending of course on the offset of the rims. I believe that 265/75/16 is a similar rolling diameter but wider than the standard and the other size is closer to a 31" ie smaller
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    If you do a lot of touring I'd try to get a set of 130 rims (aka wolf rims) instead of the craprasias , 235/85 16 is the metric equiv of 750-16 , maybe 1/2" to 1" wider depending on brand but same dia.

    Stronger rims than standard & much stronger than sun raisers but still genuine LR rims so look right & better offset than 110 rims so better turning circle if you screw your steering stops in.

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    Don't go with the 245's.

    As said before, the 235/85's are the standard size on wagons, same rolling distance as the 7.50's. Your speedo will still be spot on and they will fit perfectly. They will be much nicer on the highway than the 7.50's. I run these on my D1. There are more brands and types than you can poke a stick at.

    Your speedo will still be spot on with the 265/75 and I'm sure they wont rub.

    I would stick with the 235's.

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    I just forked out for a set of 235/85-16 Maxxis Bighorn 762's and I am really happy with them.
    So far I've given them Highway, Mud, Gravel Road, Ice and Snow.

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    When you work out what you want give me a ring and i will see what i can do for you mate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pm80 View Post
    Don't go with the 245's.

    As said before, the 235/85's are the standard size on wagons, same rolling distance as the 7.50's. Your speedo will still be spot on and they will fit perfectly.

    Your speedo will still be spot on with the 265/75 and I'm sure they wont rub.
    Says a man with no Defender experience. Most defers need a 255/85 to get their speedo working spot on, or a trip to an instrument fitter.

    The 130 rims have a slightly wider offset which will increase your track little bit. As said, they are stronger than cheap steels, 2350kgs rating -v- 1200kgs, however, you will still need tubes. It has been said that they will take tubeless but the seal with the bead is weak compared to a tubeless wheel.

    If you do a lot of touring, the advantage with the 235/85/16 is that they are fairly common throughout the country, next up being the 265/75. You will be lucky to find the other sizes outside of a big city or in a 10 ply rating. Also, with a 265 there might be legal/insurance issues with being overwidth. Also, the wider you go above design the more stress there is on standard steering/suspension components shortening service life and increasing the risk of breakage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ugu80 View Post
    The 130 rims have a slightly wider offset which will increase your track little bit. As said, they are stronger than cheap steels, 2350kgs rating -v- 1200kgs, however, you will still need tubes. It has been said that they will take tubeless but the seal with the bead is weak compared to a tubeless wheel.
    I had to do to 255/85 to get my speedo accurate. (that is 33"). I have Disco 1 steel rims as they are tubeless. Running tubes is a PITA and I had a lot of flats when I ran them. To make matters worse, when they go flat, they do so very quickly.

    There are a lot of stories about the lack of quality in sunraysia rims (or maybe copies of them, I don't know) but there are so many good second hand deefer alloys, or if you are going new have a look at the ZU alloys.

    My Disco rims were $50 each. (I also had them modded (offset out 20mm) and powercoated, but that is of course optional)

    There may be some 130 rims which are tubeless.. maybe the wolf type? I'm sure someone will know.
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    yes you can get Wolf tubeless rims
    ANR4583PM | 16x6.5 Wolf Rim - tubeless black primer coated

    I run the tubed type wolf rim, but without tubes, never had an issue except for a tubeless valve breaking off - but nothing to do with the rim / or type of rim.

    When I wanted 2x new BFG 235/85 AT's swapped from my standard 110 rims (which were fitted tubeless) onto the wolf rims the local tyre bloke would no do it without fitting tubes because it says "tubed type" on the rim, even tho he fitted them tubeless to the 110 rims which are also tube type, it just dosent say it. I pulled the tubes out when I got home & put in some tubeless valves & took them to another place to get balanced. no dramas.

    Agree with other comments, the Defer speedo is wrong with 750's and 235/85's at 100k on the GPS the speedo is about 106

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    I will stand by my comment that you can run tubeless on the Wolf rims but the seating between the bead and the rim is not as strong as dedicated tubeless wheels (place them side by side and you can see the shallower lip).

    For the record, I don't think sweating for a couple hours changing a tubed tyre is a great trip. I'd rather just plug or change and go so I have tubeless Kings wheels (16x7) and 235/85 tyres (Hankook Dynapro MT - love 'em, but that's another story). I go on some very challenging fire trails and have no issue with the cheapie steels. The Wolfs might be stronger and nothing but LR stuff is good enough for the purests, but unless you are regularly carting loads over a ton, the cheap steels are plenty strong enough.

    I had four flats with the standard wheels and tubes and since changing I have run Maxxis Buckshots and now Hankooks (about 60 000kms in total) without a single flat/puncture.

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