2.5 years and 4 clutches. Soon will need another. My Puma

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Originally Posted by djam1

I sympathize with you with your plight, others have asked if its a driver issue and you have flatly rejected the suggestion.
Don't be too hasty and check yourself we all get it wrong sometimes.

That said lets say you are right and its nothing to do with you is there an alignment issue with the Bell-housing or something?
I recall some of the poorly made Holden conversion kits for series had the same problem.
I don't doubt that Land Rover could make a mistake and 5 clutches in the time you talk of indicate something is going on.

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Hi djam. You are correct in what you say and I would actually love the issue to be my driving style. If it is something about my style it isnt something that has been outlined here. I also don't doubt that LR could make multiple mistakes with the one issue; I've witnessed it first hand more than once.

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Originally Posted by djam1

I sympathize with you with your plight, others have asked if its a driver issue and you have flatly rejected the suggestion.
Don't be too hasty and check yourself we all get it wrong sometimes.

That said lets say you are right and its nothing to do with you is there an alignment issue with the Bell-housing or something?
I recall some of the poorly made Holden conversion kits for series had the same problem.
I don't doubt that Land Rover could make a mistake and 5 clutches in the time you talk of indicate something is going on.

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How do I check the bellhousing alignment? Just take it to my mechanic?

I understand your frustration, I'm on my third clutch in 30000km of only light use other than one Kimberley trip on the third one. Both were "updated versions" the latter all good so far. Do you know if the dealer fitted the updated clutch to your vehicle?

Allan

I am not sure how you do it yourself but I have read Bill (Wagoo) talk about it in the past.
It should be in the realms of the skills of a good workshop to check the alignment provided they have the correct equipment.
That said there are some skilled technicians and there are muppets that twirl spanners on a daily basis so it could be a lucky dip.

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Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned

How do I check the bellhousing alignment? Just take it to my mechanic?

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Originally Posted by djam1

I sympathize with you with your plight, others have asked if its a driver issue and you have flatly rejected the suggestion.
Don't be too hasty and check yourself we all get it wrong sometimes.

That said lets say you are right and its nothing to do with you is there an alignment issue with the Bell-housing or something?
I recall some of the poorly made Holden conversion kits for series had the same problem.
I don't doubt that Land Rover could make a mistake and 5 clutches in the time you talk of indicate something is going on.

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Some of the Holden conversions were worse than crap,the pinion bearings used to fail and screech like murder the alignment was so far out. Pat

I wonder if it's the slave cylinder adjusted without free play?,that would effectively be like riding the clutch which would stuff the clutch quick smart. Pat

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Originally Posted by PAT303

I wonder if it's the slave cylinder adjusted without free play?,that would effectively be like riding the clutch which would stuff the clutch quick smart. Pat

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Thanks Pat. Anyway of 'feeling' that? Or do I take it to my mechanic?

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Originally Posted by Allan

I understand your frustration, I'm on my third clutch in 30000km of only light use other than one Kimberley trip on the third one. Both were "updated versions" the latter all good so far. Do you know if the dealer fitted the updated clutch to your vehicle?

Allan

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I was told I had the updated version installed but Ive been spun some stories in the past about 'upgraded' bits being put on when they havent been; so couldnt say for certain. Can I ask what year your Defender is and do you have ongoing issues with the EGR?

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Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned

I was told I had the updated version installed but Ive been spun some stories in the past about 'upgraded' bits being put on when they havent been; so couldnt say for certain. Can I ask what year your Defender is and do you have ongoing issues with the EGR?

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Mine is a 2008 SVX it had one egr replaced after my trip north when the clean down cycle sounded like a rusty outside toilet door opening and closing. The first clutch replacement lasted about 5000km after waiting a month for the kit to arrive from the U.K. This one even feels a lot better than the preceding two. As far as egr's go I think the only answer is a remap that shuts the thing for keeps, I await s.h.m.b.o. permission for this.


Allan

Mine had it's clutch replaced with "the upgraded" version early in the year at 45K.
The rattle appeared after 5 or so hours of highway driving. Quite distinct and caught my ear as I opens the front gate. I don't leave my hand in the gear stick, foot on the clutch driving or at the lights. I don't ride the clutch an any way, and use the hand brake for hill starts. Even leave it in neutral most times when it;s parked.

At 56K my EGR has gone. I have used fuel doctor in it from day one so it obviously made no difference. There doesn't seem to be any obvious difference in anything except more soot at the end of the tail pipe.

It seems a remap is the only way to ditch the too regular EGR replacement some have had. I had herd $3000 for a clutch so I'm not keen to be doing these several times within 100K either.
It's either these clutches and their springs are made so cheap its pathetic, or there is something fundamentally wrong with the drive line set up LR have chosen.
Not everyone comes on here and says they've had clutch replacements but the more you look the more come out of the wood work.

Sadly I think its modern motoring because many of the supposed reliable Jap vehicles are have similar issues with there chosen part.