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Thread: 2.5 years and 4 clutches. Soon will need another. My Puma

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    2.5 years and 4 clutches. Soon will need another. My Puma

    It looks like I will need yet another clutch for my 08 Puma. It's apparently had the most recent upgraded clutch installed lessthan a year ago. Having said that it made a 'crunching' spring noise as I changed gears driving it away from the dealers. Mentioned it and wonder of wonders got the standard LR reply 'no fault found'.
    With this new clutch (and the previous ones) Ive also experienced intermittent complete clutch fade. This is almost non existant now since changing using racing clutch fluid which points to a heat issue.
    What I am now getting is the dreaded spring rattle which is only getting worse over the last fortnight.

    My questions are...

    1) has anyone who's experienced several lutch failures ever resolved the issues for any meaningful amount of time.

    2) Putting driver error aside, what is causing this?

    3) If it is an inherent Puma issue (yes I know some are perfect and will never ever ever show any issues, ever) is there a proven clutch upgrade available.

    I've searched all the usual places and the discussions just seem to fade away once a new clutch is installed and then starts up again when they fail; but I cannot find any actual resolution to the problem.

    I will give my first born and/or a decent enough kidney to the person who resolves this nonsense for me. Help.

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    Does the Puma have a dual mass flywheel like the TD5s?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned View Post
    It looks like I will need yet another clutch for my 08 Puma. It's apparently had the most recent upgraded clutch installed lessthan a year ago. Having said that it made a 'crunching' spring noise as I changed gears driving it away from the dealers. Mentioned it and wonder of wonders got the standard LR reply 'no fault found'.
    With this new clutch (and the previous ones) Ive also experienced intermittent complete clutch fade. This is almost non existant now since changing using racing clutch fluid which points to a heat issue.
    What I am now getting is the dreaded spring rattle which is only getting worse over the last fortnight.

    My questions are...

    1) has anyone who's experienced several lutch failures ever resolved the issues for any meaningful amount of time.

    2) Putting driver error aside, what is causing this?

    3) If it is an inherent Puma issue (yes I know some are perfect and will never ever ever show any issues, ever) is there a proven clutch upgrade available.

    I've searched all the usual places and the discussions just seem to fade away once a new clutch is installed and then starts up again when they fail; but I cannot find any actual resolution to the problem.

    I will give my first born and/or a decent enough kidney to the person who resolves this nonsense for me. Help.
    There was a thread on the Defender2 site talking about fitting the BT50 clutch, but I haven't been following it sorry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Does the Puma have a dual mass flywheel like the TD5s?
    No

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    Could it be your driving style?. Pat

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    Could it be your driving style?. Pat
    No.

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    Is remapped? Do you do heavy towing?

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    Thanks for asking, I should have clarified.
    I dont tow and there are no performance upgrades and I still run the tyres it came with. It has had a very easy life, I drive it gently and it has had only a couple of easy hours off road since the latest clutch was installed.

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    What has been failing with the clutch? is it evenly warn out? or damaged in anyway? Could it be that it is out of adjustment and slipping which is wearing it out prematurely?
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    Quote Originally Posted by alittlebitconcerned View Post
    No.
    oh dear, its never the drivers fualt???

    sorry but 4 clutchs in 2 yrs,,, thats stuped, yes the puma clutch is ****,, but not that bad, and im sure the dealer ant that stuped to just fit a new clutch with out looking at what was wrong, most iv seen is 2 in one car and that was from it been thrashed,

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    sorry to hear that alittlebitconcerned. Frustrating and takes the shine off at the very least. Is the new one going in under warranty?
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