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    A-Frame Top Bolt Issue

    Hello all,
    First time poster.
    I've got a 1995 130 single cab that I've owned since 1996.
    It's been sitting in my front yard for nearly 7 years without much care or attention. Occasionally driven down to the corner store, but thats about it. Over the last few weeks I've decided to get it back into running order, starting with the suspension, bushes and ball joints.

    All I've done so far is pull the A-frame out in preparation for a new ball joint and bushes.
    Here is my first problem.
    referring to part# BH612321
    The bolts that go through the chassis bracket/A-Frame Arm, when removed showed signs of wear on the THREAD of the bolt.
    Not good I thought, wasn't an issue as I ordered all new bolts for the suspension, But the new bolts are exactly the same.
    I just stuck the bolt through the bracket and have marked it with a texter, I require approx. 20mm more shank to make it all the way thru the bracket.

    Am I right to assume the shank of the bolt should be just shy from coming thru the chassis bracket?

    Cheers,
    Tony

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    in perfect practice yes. As long as you dont bottom out the thread before the correct torque is applied. You can take your bolts to a fastener shop and buy the same DIA and GRADE bolt in a longer shank. It will probably be to long, just cut off the extra thread with a hacksaw and file clean for nut fitment

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    Thanks uninformed.
    I'll go to a bolt place sometime this week.
    I probably should send the supplier a polite email to let them know about this issue, as it did come from a reputable rover parts supplier.

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    They will be the correct bolts you were supplied, that's just typical of a mass produced item.

    If you want to, just do as Uninformed suggested, and FWIW I used to have to do the same thing with all the bolts on every open wheel race car I ever rebuilt/worked on that had a bolt through a clevis in double shear.

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    You would be hard pressed to find the correct length high tensile 7/16th UNF bolt IME, I have tried before. The thread does look like it has been 'filed' slightly on its OD, looks to be 'rounded' rather than sharp, that seems to be pretty much the same as all the others I have removed and inspected over the years. And that would be PLENTY


    JC
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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    had to google " double shear ", Learning something new everyday.

    These new bolts don't have a Grade stamped on them.
    The old ones are UNF Grade "S"

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    You would be hard pressed to find the correct length high tensile 7/16th UNF bolt IME, I have tried before. The thread does look like it has been 'filed' slightly on its OD, looks to be 'rounded' rather than sharp, that seems to be pretty much the same as all the others I have removed and inspected over the years. And that would be PLENTY


    JC
    Mine are worn real bad, thread is totally gone, worn smooth.
    Probably the cause of the clunking from the the rear, as the ball joint was near perfect, apart from the deteriorated boot
    Last edited by jboot51; 2nd September 2012 at 06:54 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by justinc View Post
    You would be hard pressed to find the correct length high tensile 7/16th UNF bolt IME, I have tried before. The thread does look like it has been 'filed' slightly on its OD, looks to be 'rounded' rather than sharp, that seems to be pretty much the same as all the others I have removed and inspected over the years. And that would be PLENTY


    JC
    I think we're talking about the chassis end JC, the 19mm ones ?

    and FWIW I really don't like industrial HT bolts somewhere like suspensions, most aren't nicely made and most available here come from a country where standards aren't rigidly adhered to, if at all.

    Socket head cap screws from SPS Unbrako and Holo-Krome are generally are far better made to better tolerances with better heat treatment than the average hex headed bolt, or at least that's the way it was when i used to screw cars together.

    Unfortunately the really good fasteners that are available in grip (unthreaded shank) length increments of 1/16" (aircraft hardware) are only available in Imperial sizes

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    Quote Originally Posted by jboot51 View Post
    had to google " double shear ", Learning something new everyday.

    These new bolts don't have a Grade stamped on them.
    The old ones are UNF Grade "S"
    its only metric that have a numeric grade stamped on them...ie 8.8, 12.9 etc. UN bolts have "dash" indicators stamped onto the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130 View Post
    I think we're talking about the chassis end JC, the 19mm ones ?

    and FWIW I really don't like industrial HT bolts somewhere like suspensions, most aren't nicely made and most available here come from a country where standards aren't rigidly adhered to, if at all.

    Socket head cap screws from SPS Unbrako and Holo-Krome are generally are far better made to better tolerances with better heat treatment than the average hex headed bolt, or at least that's the way it was when i used to screw cars together.

    Unfortunately the really good fasteners that are available in grip length increments of 1/16" (aircraft hardware) are only available in Imperial sizes

    Ah, oops sorry misread.


    jboot51 I have some in good nick if you are interested? You are going to need the chassis brackets, too I reckon. PM me

    JC
    The Isuzu 110. Solid and as dependable as a rock, coming soon with auto box😊
    The Range Rover L322 4.4.TTDV8 ....probably won't bother with the remap..😈

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