Suspension Advice Needed

**uninformed** · 21st September 2012, 05:45 PM

how does the diff get rotated forward???

while the axle housing does rotate (pinion up, loss of castor), due to the RA's being fixed at the chassis, it has actually moved the axle rearward as it travels through the arc scribed by the RA's...so the lower shock mount may be rotated, but it is actually further back than at stock ride height....

Im not sure why your pics show so much forward movement of the lower shock mount.......

**Drover** · 21st September 2012, 06:06 PM

Fit these to the front of find some springs that match the length of the shocks.

Front dislocation cones - sydney4x4accessories

**uninformed** · 21st September 2012, 06:23 PM

Or fit springs that match the shock and don't need dislocation cones...and just retain them.

chook73 · 21st September 2012, 06:26 PM

I have to say I went down this path and chased the problem for ages with no happy ending until I went to a specialist and had it all measured properly. Whilst yet to be fitted (thats next week) I was amazed at how cheap it was, it actually cost less than the TF stuff and I am confident because its been weighed and measured and comes with a lifetime warranty that I am going down the right path.

**Dockstrada** · 21st September 2012, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Drover

Fit these to the front of find some springs that match the length of the shocks.

Front dislocation cones - sydney4x4accessories

That was exactley what i was thinking of spinning up on the lathe , thanks its a much easier option .

**strangy** · 22nd September 2012, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by chook73

I have to say I went down this path and chased the problem for ages with no happy ending until I went to a specialist and had it all measured properly. Whilst yet to be fitted (thats next week) I was amazed at how cheap it was, it actually cost less than the TF stuff and I am confident because its been weighed and measured and comes with a lifetime warranty that I am going down the right path.

Please post some pics and specs when it's done,

chook73 · 22nd September 2012, 09:47 AM

Here is a pic of my front shocks with 3deg correction it looks pretty well the same and you can see the rub marks.

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**PAT303** · 22nd September 2012, 09:53 AM

I've yet to drive an LR that has aftermarket suspension thats as good as standard,all are just stiffer springs with whatever shock the owner prefers and they drive like crap.I'd take chooks advice and do it properly. Pat

**lambrover** · 22nd September 2012, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by PAT303

I've yet to drive an LR that has aftermarket suspension thats as good as standard,all are just stiffer springs with whatever shock the owner prefers and they drive like crap.I'd take chooks advice and do it properly. Pat

I reckon standard defenders drive like crap, way to stiff for my liking. Take a standard height vehicle and one with a decent 2+ lift and you will notice a difference over rough ground.

As mentioned it depends on what you fit though.

Just for the 2 guys who think defenders are just fine as they are, what are you doing on here, this is for people that modify and work on there cars, you can stick to the dealers and less capable vehicles.

Vehicles are released at a cost effective standard not optimum for any thing but a compromise.

**Summiitt** · 22nd September 2012, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by lambrover

I reckon standard defenders drive like crap, way to stiff for my liking. Take a standard height vehicle and one with a decent 2+ lift and you will notice a difference over rough ground.

As mentioned it depends on what you fit though.

Just for the 2 guys who think defenders are just fine as they are, what are you doing on here, this is for people that modify and work on there cars, you can stick to the dealers and less capable vehicles.

Vehicles are released at a cost effective standard not optimum for any thing but a compromise.

Interesting comment, defenders are designed to carry loads, if you take a defender off road with less than 400kg on board, they will be harsh and won't flex as they are designed to do. I did 120,000km hard off road driving in my 110 puma and the suspension was stock and performed brilliantly. My current 130 single cab tray tops stock suspension will be left as is for the time been. If it's not fully loaded it rides harsh and is uncomfortable, it has to be loaded above 3t gvm to settle it down and make it work off road...it's common knowledge in commercial applications that a 79 cruiser will need heavier rear springs from new or by 30k, I am expecting at least 150k out of the defenders standard setup before they start looking tired...just my 2 bobs worth.

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