Thread: 20k service on new 90 is too long

Just a quick FYI re service intervals and the transfer case - I had mine replaced under warranty at 80k and frankly the oil was pretty tired and there were clear signs of heat and wear - so I'll be doing t/c oils at 40k from here on out.

To be clear my t/c never let go on me or anything like that, however it had done a lot of heavy towing off road in reasonably warm conditions.

PS I had been hammering LR about drive train lash for ages and eventually they folded and fitted a new t/c - I suspect this was mostly just to shut me up

Originally Posted by Defender Mike

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It states 10,000 for a few countrys but 20,000 for Australlia. I give up! Im more interested in looking after the truck than fighting with their service manager I will book it in and pay for it to be done.
Mike

I wouldn't mind betting that the countries it lists for the 10,000km servicing have high sulphur diesel

The TD5 had 20,000km scheduled servicing as it had one of the best oil filtration systems ever fitted to an engine, although most owners and shops brought that back to 10,000km.

20,000km isn't outlandish, it all depends on driving conditions, sump capacity, oil type, filtration, etc. etc.

Large over the road trucks can easily exceed 100,000km between oil changes using HD syn oils and used oil analysis.
30,000km is easily achievable on HD mineral oils, and those big engines run boost levels that would damned near blow the head off a BMW or L/R diesel.

As I've said often enough on this board that people would be getting sick of hearing it, we used to regularly take a TD42T engined Patrol out to 20,000km oil change intervals safely using a premium syn HD diesel oil and premium filters.
This was back when fuel had much higher sulphur levels than today.

The oil was nowhere near it's limit, but we were in front financially at that distance so it was changed.
I've brought that back to 10-12,000km now, only because the trips it does are much shorter than when it was regularly towing horses, and that engine has now exceeded 405,000km and is running as good as ever.

Am I saying I'd take TDci out to 20,000km ?

Nope, but it isn't as cut a dried as some make out, nor is their reasoning for changing the oil right either.

Originally Posted by carlschmid2002

I have a MY 12 D90. I am on the corporate program so I get free servicing and they are servicing mine every 10000km. I don't know where this 20000 comes from as my service book says 10000km.

Land rover defender serivice in the uk has been every 12000miles ( aka 20,000ks) which is the yearly average miles in the uk

So working on that the car will have its yearly service instead of the 6,000 miles service ( which is about 10,000ks)

I know a lot of people in Aus think the poms don't drive any where :-)

But it has always been 6 month or 6000 miles service which ever comes first. But over the last ten years. This had changed to 12,000 miles or very year which ever comes first. And pretty much every car you buy in the uk these days is like this.

But as for Aussie harsh conditions , well the winter and weather is harsher in uk than ours and remember 80% of them here never go outback anyway.

My Hyundai is every 15,000ks and I am going in for its 4th service (60,000ks service ) next week and funny it's the same day that the car rego is due which says it is a year old next week.

Originally Posted by Defender Mike

Is yours a 2.4 or 2.2 litre they keep telling me it changes on the 2.2 and I have read the book its definately there. I picked mine up on the 6th January 2012. It was built November 2011.

It states 10,000 for a few countrys but 20,000 for Australlia. I give up! Im more interested in looking after the truck than fighting with their service manager I will book it in and pay for it to be done.
Mike

MY12 2.2 Diesel

When the 2.2 defender came out LRA discontinued 10k health check services on this model, which is a little confusing (both for dealers & owners) as every other Land Rover has the health checks included as part of the corporate plan.

However it is LRA'S intention to discontinue health checks on ALL models, as new models/engine variants are released.

Personally I would recommend an oil & filter replacement at the 10k - 12k (model dependent) and 90% of our clients are happy to do this.

If you own a 2.2 and have had a 10,000klm health check completed, your dealer has done this as a gesture of goodwill or was mistaken, as they will not be reimbursed by Land Rover for completing this service.

Now at 17,000 ks and feels like it needs a service, doesnt feel like a new car anymore. So Im booking bit in even if I have to pay for it myself. I will get oil samples and have them lab tested.

Mike

I would take a very close look/read of the owners manual in particular the service manual. I was looking at the Tdi version the other day and could not believe what is daily, weekly monthly etc depending on enviromnet....and then long term there are items that should be replaced every XXX km that most here would never have...

Alot on a vehcile is consumable

I personaly do my Tdi engine oil and filter every 5k as I tow 90% of the time and can be doing short trips. For the diffs, T/case and gearbox its 20k with Synthetic oils

I am on the corporate plan and have my MY12 90 serviced every 10,000km. I pay for every second service 20k, 40k etc and just pay for the ones in between. I will continue to have it serviced every 10k as i plan on keeping it for a long time.