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    If your primary purpose is touring, I'd go the 110 personally. It's definitely doable in a 90 with 2 people, but a 110 will be much better suited to for the purpose IMHO. It's better on corrugations, it's not darty at speed (the 90 is due to its shorter wheelbase), carrying fuel is easier, and you'll be able to pack more comfortably.

    As others have mentioned, it's not particularly difficult to live with in the city, other than overall height, which you will have with either a 90 or a 110. For parking, it's has a smaller footprint than a Commodore (300mm shorter, and 100mm narrower), and turning circle is decent.

    The 90 has plenty of its own charms, is great offroad, more fun to drive, potentially better resale value down the track however if you're after a tourer, you'd be compromising with a 90 IMHO.

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    Extra fuel carrying capacity in a 90 seems to be a priority, as mentioned several times in this thread.
    Mulgo does a dual filler conversion to the original filler neck which allows you to fill one, two, or three tanks, depending on your setup, all through the original filler. I've fitted one of these which was supplied with a pair of Front Runner sill tanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psimpson7 View Post
    Understandable - i certainly wouldnt put any on the roof. The only time I have taken a lot was for the Simpson crossing. I put them inside under a flase floor on which the fridge sat.

    I took 7 which gave me 200 l in total with the main tank.

    The internal tank is a good idea. Will that just have a transfer pump and hose to fill the main tank?

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    I never thought about a false floor (great idea!!).. although I am putting in drawers (or should I say Pete is putting them in for me).. The tank has it's own 12 volt pump but have been advised to look at the Mulgo filler so will check that out first. If you want to see it I can let you know when it arrives and you can have a wander down for a look if you want?..

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    Firstly let me thank you all for taking the time to respond to my question.
    I think I am leaning towards a 110 , although the look and fun factor of a 90 is tough to pass up.
    As touring will be this Landy's main purpose I think we will go for the extra space and longer wheel base (in attempt for a better ride over corrugations)
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    Series Land Rovers lend themselves well to a platform across wheel arches.

    For those who can afford them or build them, drawers under that platform are very convenient. However, even simple wooden boxes under the platform make a great place to store all the heavy items which might need to be accessible without shifting all the things stacked on top of them.

    However Series vehicles also lend themselves to another platform across where the top of the roof is bolted onto the sides. It makes a good spot to store all those light things like bags of clothes and sleeping bags. Not only are they immediately accessible there, but they provide sound and heat insulation.

    I suppose what that amount to is that layers of storage increase storage capacity and convenience.

    I guess something similar is possible with later vehicles that have abandoned leaf springs in favour of coils.

    While you won't be desperate for storage capacity in a 110, those two platforms do make it easier to get access to more of the gear. A lot of people use the bottom one, but I think the top one is very useful too.

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    It's always going to be a compromise, but I think the sheer fun and handiness of the 90 makes it a winner in my book. Most of my weekends away with the 90 will be by myself as my girl is scared of heights and wont go canyoning! But longer trips there will be 2 of us and and I have learned to travel light over the years - won't be taking hot water systems, showers, toilet is the little orange plastic shovel, don't need an excessive amount of awnings for the tent etc etc. The down side of course is fuel capacity - 60 litre tank is just too wee - not too sure about extra tanks, but where is the best place to put jerry cans? As for the ride, can't get much worse than the endless speed humps in the city - they are a right PIA - the short 90 is really bouncy on those - not much better than a lowered WRX when it comes to speed humps!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuzzyDelta90 View Post
    It's always going to be a compromise, but I think the sheer fun and handiness of the 90 makes it a winner in my book. Most of my weekends away with the 90 will be by myself as my girl is scared of heights and wont go canyoning! But longer trips there will be 2 of us and and I have learned to travel light over the years - won't be taking hot water systems, showers, toilet is the little orange plastic shovel, don't need an excessive amount of awnings for the tent etc etc. The down side of course is fuel capacity - 60 litre tank is just too wee - not too sure about extra tanks, but where is the best place to put jerry cans? As for the ride, can't get much worse than the endless speed humps in the city - they are a right PIA - the short 90 is really bouncy on those - not much better than a lowered WRX when it comes to speed humps!
    Don't let the standard 60 litre tank stop you. Throw a bit more money at it and viola:



    This was a fill-up even before the fuel light had come on. 82 litres went down the spout for the sill tanks and the rest into the main tank. Had done 883km's since previous fill-up, most of it on open road at 100kph towing a large trailer and with four people in the D90, so 14.8lts/100km is okay-ish.

    I hate smelly jerry cans and having to manhandle the containers and the space they take up. I love pressing the buttons on the dash that transfer the fuel while I keep driving. I love filling all three tanks from a single filler nozzle. I highly recommend the sill tanks.

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    I toured extensively in the sixties in an 86 and an 88, as did most of the few who were touring in those years (or in the later sixties often FJ40s). As we moved into the late seventies, short wheelbase touring vehicles were gradually displaced by lwbs.

    The reason for this? Australians started carrying more and more junk with them. When I travelled through the centre in 1963, for example, the two of us carried four jerricans of petrol, four four gallon drums of water, a small tent, about five pounds weight of cooking and eating gear, probably fifty pounds of food, two sleeping bags, no more tools than would fit in the under seat toolbox, a fan belt, radiator hoses and two half axles behind the seats, paper maps, cameras, a few small books, shovel, axe, about ten pounds of clothing each. (may have missed a couple of items)

    No - table, chairs, gas cooker, refrigerator or icebox, recovery gear, beds, generator (unaffordable), gas lights(unheard of), computer (didn't exist), mobile phone (didn't exist), CD collection (didn't exist), swags, satphone (didn't exist), HF radio (unaffordable) - the list goes on. This is why long wheelbase sales in Australia have outstripped swb to the extent that the 90 was not even sold in Australia for most of the time since its introduction in 1984 - and it is not just Landrover.

    All the extra gear that we can't leave home without today has to be carried. But in the 1960s the roads were far worse, and there was far less likelihood of help if you got into trouble. If we managed in a swb then, you can today - just leave most of the stuff at home, or better still, in the shop! (Having said that I admit to driving a 110 today - but that is not so much a matter of touring, but so that I can carry my grandchildren, although when I bought it almost twenty years ago there was no choice.

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    I did 45,000k's around Australia in a 90.

    Was great fun but as it was a soft top we had to take a trailer as the 90's just don't have the room of the 110. So you do have to watch what you carry in the 90

    I have a long range tank in all three of my trucks. , the 90 , 110 and the Discovery. Not a lover of having jerry cans of fuel sat on the roof or in the car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    I toured extensively in the sixties in an 86 and an 88, as did most of the few who were touring in those years (or in the later sixties often FJ40s). As we moved into the late seventies, short wheelbase touring vehicles were gradually displaced by lwbs.

    The reason for this? Australians started carrying more and more junk with them. When I travelled through the centre in 1963, for example, the two of us carried four jerricans of petrol, four four gallon drums of water, a small tent, about five pounds weight of cooking and eating gear, probably fifty pounds of food, two sleeping bags, no more tools than would fit in the under seat toolbox, a fan belt, radiator hoses and two half axles behind the seats, paper maps, cameras, a few small books, shovel, axe, about ten pounds of clothing each. (may have missed a couple of items)

    No - table, chairs, gas cooker, refrigerator or icebox, recovery gear, beds, generator (unaffordable), gas lights(unheard of), computer (didn't exist), mobile phone (didn't exist), CD collection (didn't exist), swags, satphone (didn't exist), HF radio (unaffordable) - the list goes on. This is why long wheelbase sales in Australia have outstripped swb to the extent that the 90 was not even sold in Australia for most of the time since its introduction in 1984 - and it is not just Landrover.

    All the extra gear that we can't leave home without today has to be carried. But in the 1960s the roads were far worse, and there was far less likelihood of help if you got into trouble. If we managed in a swb then, you can today - just leave most of the stuff at home, or better still, in the shop! (Having said that I admit to driving a 110 today - but that is not so much a matter of touring, but so that I can carry my grandchildren, although when I bought it almost twenty years ago there was no choice.

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    Absolutely spot on...

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