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    truetrac and detroit locker

    just got home from an excellent day at Glasshouse Mtns, first time off road since fitting the locker and the truetrac[95 110 auto] and i have never gone as far so easy, an unbelievable difference, had to winch up 2 disco 1s and a county[all mates] with standard cars[that will be changing soon now], well worth the investment-both from GBR in Utah

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    Just looking at their website.. OME nitro shocks for $94.95 (AUD $91.77).. I was quoted last week for $170 each.. and to think that they are made in Australia.. I can't find the lockers on their website but I suspect they would also be cheaper than from ARB.. pity I didn't know anyone who could fit this stuff as the quoted price for lockers from ARB last week was a tad under $4000 (fitted).. that's for both lockers.

    Have you got both or just the front/rear one done?

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    detriot locker in the back[salisbury]- very easy to fit and the truetrac in the front[rover diff] also easy to fit[bolt to your crown wheel]- I scribed the crown wheel to the diff case with a straight edge-dismantled- and then fitted with new bearings lining up the crown wheel to the scribed markings on the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sue View Post
    Just looking at their website.. OME nitro shocks for $94.95 (AUD $91.77).. I was quoted last week for $170 each.. and to think that they are made in Australia.. I can't find the lockers on their website but I suspect they would also be cheaper than from ARB.. pity I didn't know anyone who could fit this stuff as the quoted price for lockers from ARB last week was a tad under $4000 (fitted).. that's for both lockers.

    Have you got both or just the front/rear one done?
    I doubt anything OME is made in Australia, try China, Same as most ARB branded things.
    I buy ARB stuff cheaper delivered to the door from USA than from ARB over the counter, but it is handy to have the ARB shop just around the corner.

    Likewise I got both truetracs including new bearings shipped from GBR Utah for less than the cost one ARB diff.


    Quote Originally Posted by redrovertdi View Post
    detriot locker in the back[salisbury]- very easy to fit and the truetrac in the front[rover diff] also easy to fit[bolt to your crown wheel]- I scribed the crown wheel to the diff case with a straight edge-dismantled- and then fitted with new bearings lining up the crown wheel to the scribed markings on the case.
    not the way I would do it, hope you will get away with it, did you use some oxide paste to check the contact pattern ??.

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    What is everybody thoughts on Ashcroft's ATB ( Automatic Torque Biasing limited slip diff ).

    They seem to be a good fit with the TDCI or other Defender's with TC. Along with being reasonabley gentle on the drive line.

    At £550 for the front rover diff and £615 for the rear P38, fited with Ashcroft heavy duty crown wheel and pinion gear supplied and no need for a compressor they seem to be excellent value.

    I would love to hear of any experiences or technical expertise on this product.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    I doubt anything OME is made in Australia, try China, Same as most ARB branded things.
    I buy ARB stuff cheaper delivered to the door from USA than from ARB over the counter, but it is handy to have the ARB shop just around the corner.

    Likewise I got both truetracs including new bearings shipped from GBR Utah for less than the cost one ARB diff.




    not the way I would do it, hope you will get away with it, did you use some oxide paste to check the contact pattern ??.

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    Have done this way previously[2-3 years ago] when replacing the bearings in both diffs, bearings were replaced again with new that came with locker/trutrac

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    Drover
    I have an ATB in the front of my TD5 Defender and am quite happy with it.
    They are not as good as a locker when used with traction control but they are very good.
    I love the quality of the unit and the additional strength that they provide
    It is said that they are a better quality product than the trutrack but I don't know.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drover View Post
    What is everybody thoughts on Ashcroft's ATB ( Automatic Torque Biasing limited slip diff ).

    They seem to be a good fit with the TDCI or other Defender's with TC. Along with being reasonably gentle on the drive line.

    At £550 for the front rover diff and £615 for the rear P38, fited with Ashcroft heavy duty crown wheel and pinion gear supplied and no need for a compressor they seem to be excellent value.

    I would love to hear of any experiences or technical expertise on this product.

    Cheers

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    Thanks for your thoughts Djam,

    Do you find slippage from the wheel with most grip, like a plate type limited slip will give, particularly after some wear ?

    Will it lock up reasonable quickly in a low traction situation ?

    Finally, what do you use in the rear ?

    Soz for all the questions, but if I am going to spend the hard earnt I want to be informed.

    Cheers

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    Sorry not sure what you mean by your first question

    They wont lock at all regardless of what you do they are after all at best a limited slip diff. That said if one wheel is off the ground the speed at which the traction control cuts in will be the speed at which the torque bias happens.
    I understand that with the Puma the traction control is better than the TD5

    I have an ARB in the rear of that particular Defender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drover View Post
    What is everybody thoughts on Ashcroft's ATB ( Automatic Torque Biasing limited slip diff ).

    They seem to be a good fit with the TDCI or other Defender's with TC. Along with being reasonabley gentle on the drive line.

    At £550 for the front rover diff and £615 for the rear P38, fited with Ashcroft heavy duty crown wheel and pinion gear supplied and no need for a compressor they seem to be excellent value.

    I would love to hear of any experiences or technical expertise on this product.

    Cheers
    Should be quite a bit better than a Tru-Track, uses six worm gears instead of three (this increases reliability/strength. The cross gears pushing into the pockets are what give you the torque bias from the spinning wheel to the one with traction, so the more the better) and I believe it's made from better materials and it's cheaper.
    I think it might have a better bias ratio too ?

    I know I asked Dave (or was it Ian ?) once and the I'm pretty sure their version uses a slightly stronger bias ratio than the Tru-Track.

    Put it this way, given a choice and I'm also tight, I'd buy the Ashcroft version over a Tru-Track.

    Ashcrofts version appears to be an affordable version of the Quaife ATB which is beautifully made but bloody exxy in comparison.

    [edit]they won't fully lock, they can't, and if you lift a wheel you'll need your TC to kick in to bias any remaining torque to the other wheel otherwise the one in the air will just spin.

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