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Thread: 70W HID Plug in Plug out Ebay, Good or Not?

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    Babs Guest

    70W HID Plug in Plug out Ebay, Good or Not?

    Just found these on ebay, and considering my mech was telling me about doing this mod today at about $450 these sound pretty good, especially that they can be done yourself. Plug straight in basically 15 min install..

    Any of you tech heads who have a better idea on this sort of stuff, could you give us a run down. Cheers.

    If anyone has already purchased let us know.

    I am a bit hesitant, I had them done in my Hilux and they kept blacking out, I told my mech to put the original globes back in. Note: they were probably a cheaper setup???

    Here is the ebay link.


    70W H4 Hi/Lo HID Kit Landrover Land Range Rover Discovery Defender County 110 V8 | eBay

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    Hi Babs,

    Not exactly the same thing but I installed an H1 kit into an old set of Bosch spotties I had from my old 93 defender. It is a 55w kit, cost $50 on ebay.

    The good: Super bright for super cheap, low current draw, combined with an LED light bar for spread, amazing light.

    The bad: So bright that white or yellow coloured road signs blind you with their reflection.

    I've had my kit in for about 6 months and it's been 100% reliable. I did find that the install wasn't quite a 15min plug and play situation. Mounting the ballasts in the Puma's crowded engine bay was a pain, so I squeezed them in behind the grille in the top corners.

    Here's a pic of the ballasts installed sans grille:
    imgur: the simple image sharer

    Hope this helps.

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    Not quiet HID's, but Ive just put these in the disco and they are pretty damn good. A massive improvement on the old ones!

    Philips HB4 9006 +100% X-treme xtreme extreme Vision Halogen Light Bulbs Globes | eBay

    I looked into HID kits and was put off by the reviews on cheaper kits. Some people have had the kits turn up and not the advertised wattage, wiring from the ballast to the globes was below the required rating etc.

    But the ones you are looking at could be different. And the seller appears to stand by them.

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    Seeing as you're sold on HID's, and you're on the other side of the island and therefore won't be blinding me... might I suggest the 4300K as being the best of both worlds. - Better colour rendition and less glare for you as well as everyone else.
    Yes, those reflective signs are a pain... especially as they're reflecting YOUR light back into YOUR eyes.

    Personally, I'd prefer the "Plus 100" halogen globes if you really must have huge amounts of light... Safe ,better IMHO and legal.

    Chase up the threads on HID lights. Could be illuminating.

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    Unless you have self levelling lights with washers & reflectors designed for HID there ILLEGAL

    Gary

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    I thought of adding HIDs to my Puma but here in the UK they are illegal and you will fail the MOT now with them fitted, unless they have a washer and leveller fitted. What I did was to replace the headlamp bowls with wipac crystal bowls and fitted H4 Piaa Xtreme White Plus 4000K bulbs. The crystals came in at £20 and the bulbs at £64 a pair.

    Another option which I have fitted lately are the JW Speaker LED headlamps. These require no washers or levellers and are comparable in light output to HID's. A bit pricey though but for my needs living in Scotland (long winter nights with loads of rain/snow) they are brilliant (no pun intended).

    [ame="http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002R8MQLO/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00"]H4 Piaa Xtreme White Plus (E marked) Pair HE303: Amazon.co.uk: Car & Motorbike@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31YX1MfJpCL.@@AMEPARAM@@31YX1MfJpCL[/ame]

    The JW speaker LED lights are made in the states but this is where I got them in the UK and the listing shows the specs.

    LED Land Rover Defender Puma Series headlamp upgrade 12 / 24 volt PAR 56 x 2 RHD Right Hand Drive headlight H6024 [Model 8700 H4 UK x 2] - £724.99 : LED Lights, Marker Truck LED Vehicle Lighting Trailers Commercial Lightbars Warning Lights Land Rover

    Brian.

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    If you are determined you want HID's may I suggest 35w with 4300k bulbs or even lower. The light output will still far exceed any standard halogen , be easier on the eyes with road signs and go a long way to avoiding blue flashing light bearing car drivers attentions! I have them in mains on the defender with 55w 4300 in the cibies. Seem to work well and are really good offroad

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    I'll second the Comment about LED headlights, they are legal and will virtually last forever and use no more current than your parkers.

    Since fitting mine I have had no nightvision issues, they don't reflect significantly off signs, they dont blind oncoming drivers, and I can see better in fog on both lo & hi beam , and most importantly I can actually see at night in the rain, had real issues with the wet dark roads before.

    I opted for the cheaper ex USA Truck Lites but still a lot more expensive than HID's

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    Quote Originally Posted by 33chinacars View Post
    Unless you have self levelling lights with washers & reflectors designed for HID there ILLEGAL

    Gary
    Gary is 100% correct about being illegal without self leveling head lights. I believe you can have a ‘combo’ set with HID on your High beam and normal halogens on your Low beam.
    According to the ‘boy racers’ HID in your normal headlights stands for “Hi I’m a D/H” due to the fact that a lot of people install them and do not adjust them correctly. Blinding (for want of a better word) the oncoming traffic.
    I opted for 55watt upgrade to my 240 blitz spotties. Brilliant

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    Babs Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by newlandyowner View Post
    Not quiet HID's, but Ive just put these in the disco and they are pretty damn good. A massive improvement on the old ones!

    Philips HB4 9006 +100% X-treme xtreme extreme Vision Halogen Light Bulbs Globes | eBay

    I looked into HID kits and was put off by the reviews on cheaper kits. Some people have had the kits turn up and not the advertised wattage, wiring from the ballast to the globes was below the required rating etc.

    But the ones you are looking at could be different. And the seller appears to stand by them.
    Guys, I'm not fixed on HID and you have easily talked me out of them.

    I would love the JW Speaker headlights but I think they are way over priced, besides where do the mods STOP

    The Philips Xtreme Bulbs look like they are the winner extra better light at little cost. Thanks for the link NewLandyOwner.

    My question is off the top of your heads save me going to check in manual are the MY12 2.2 Puma a H4 Bulb or H5 I know previous models TD5 etc were H4's want to double check they have not changed before I order them.

    Besides I don't mind saving money by not buying HID. I have a 22" LED light bar from Tigerz11 to go on front once I sort bulbar out, so that should give me ample daylight.

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