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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    The idea of the goose neck and where it places load and where the pivot point is in relation to back axle is a good one, but the trade off is no loosing that space. If you are towing that much maybe a small Isuzu truck would be a better option?
    the number of people who believe that the fifth wheel type couplings as shown in the top photo on this page are a good idea is mind boggling, the amount of room they take up, and the difficulty presented if/when you want to utilise that tray space is ridiculous.

    a proper gooseneck using a 75mm tray mounted ball takes up bugger all space when the trailer isnt being used, takes up little more when the trailer is being used, and if you need to use all the tray space available, you can remove the ball in less than 5 minutes using one spanner....

    the drop down ball as illustrated in the last few photos is actually of serious concern for several gooseneck hitch/trailer manufacturers in Australia, I've had a look at one personally and I'm concerned about its capacity in terms of shock loading and outright strength, and I, along with others in the trade question the legality of that style of ball, as well as that i'm pretty sure that unless its a 75mm ball and not the 60mm (?) its not actually legal in Australia any more.

    as for a light/medium rigid truck being a better option, in some circumstances, yes, but usually not for the average person, as it means another vehicle, along with associated costs for essentially a specialised purpose.

    examples: a friend has a single axle gooseneck car trailer that he had built to be towed behind his BA falcon ute, its rated capacity is well over 2500kg, and even loaded up with a 4wd colorado dual cab, it tows, handles and reverses like a dream, and articulation is to the point where when maneuvering in reverse, you can actually get the trailer well past 90 degrees and probably approaching 120 degrees to the tow vehicle.... try turning a normal car trailer around like that!

    in the last 7-8 years it has done well over 80,000km, and this year alone has done two return trips to melbourne, loaded both ways....

    when i was building gooseneck trailers for a living we had a combination caravan/mobile workshop that was to be towed by a F350 dual cab, the owner had looked at buying and fitting out a medium rigid truck to do the same thing, but made the decision for the trailer as it would allow him to still keep his F350 as a personal vehicle on weekends, use the trailer for holidays, and if he was working on site, drop the trailer and shoot off into town to pick up parts or equipment without the hassle of packing up a truck, while allowing his worker to keep going with the job. airbag suspension made for a VERY soft riding trailer, one story i heard was a coke can had been left open on the table inside, they packed up and drove ~250km home, and the can was still upright on the table!

    Quote Originally Posted by akelly View Post
    I'm particularly interested in how the clearance would work around the tub. I'm thinking I may need to suck it and see, because I can find bugger all examples from Aus.
    for clearance around the tub, a properly built gooseneck will be find swinging around as far as the drawbar will clear the cab, which will be limited by the balls proximity to the back of the cab..... as for taking one offroad, given sufficient suspension articulation, clearance between your drawbar and the sides of your tub is the issue..... what are you planning on using the trailer for?

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    It will be a mobile training facility. Only on-road application, but some pretty crappy roads around western QLD and NSW.

    After doing a fair bit of research I'm actually thinking about swapping the Defer for an F250. I just think the Defer will be on it's straps all the time, towing a big heavy trailer. The unit I'm looking at having built is 30' long and around 3t.

    I do about 50-60,000km a year, so reliability and longevity are important. So is comfort (another reason the Defer may go!).

    Thanks for the input everyone, I still haven't made a solid decision, and will keep checking the thread and updating.

    cheers,

    Adam

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed View Post
    what would the point be of setting up a swb series LR to tow with goose neck.....really
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    Cars aren't built for longevity these days so what does it matter
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    Both of these trailers were set up to tow behind dual cab F250/F350's, first is a combination mobile workshop/caravan, accomodation for 2 with a shower in the workshop area, second is a 5 horse float with living quarters, 2 single bunks plus one double, and all the bells and whistles
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    I pull 3.5 ton 4-5 days a week with my 130 puma, no dramas, except on long steep hills, who knows how long it will last but that's what they are built for...@ 90k it's never missed a beat..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summiitt View Post
    I pull 3.5 ton 4-5 days a week with my 130 puma, no dramas, except on long steep hills, who knows how long it will last but that's what they are built for...@ 90k it's never missed a beat..
    I hope you run good syn oil in atleast the gearbox and tcase AND change it out no greater than 20k. A lt230 sump plate wouldn't be a bad idea either.

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    Yep and change the oil at 15k, even over summer, gearbox and diff temperatures arnt excessive..

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