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    Quote Originally Posted by mox View Post
    Something to consider is the advantage or disadvantage of having this frame from the top of the bullbar to the top of the firewall. Should make the bullbar much less inclined to bend backwards if something hits it high up. Hopefully the tyre carrying frame will buckle before it bends the firewall though.
    Good point, impact would increase the risk of a write off I would think...
    Is the fire wall "structural" in the Puma?

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    Murray in relation to someone saying is it still possible for one person to open the bonnet have you thuoght about selling a bonnet strut kit with it?
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    This is the bonnet mount I made for my 300Tdi - my point being that even with the lower bonnet height it was a bugger to see over. I would have to take it off and leave it at camp even on non-white knuckle tracks as you just could not make any wheel placement decisions accurately. I know its only for touring and would come off at camp but I think I would go the rear carrier option if you want a full spare (so long as the rear chassis doesn't crack with the extra weight). I now take a tyre carcass on the roof rack with my Puma - a lot lighter than a full spare - with a tube. While the carrier that Murray has done is a triumph (and what the customer wanted) by the time you add up the extra height of the Puma bonnet then the clearance under the mount then the tyre...... I was also worried with mine that the police would pull me over for having restricted vision - my son was pulled over for this for having a windscreen mounted (low as possible) GPS in his Disco. But a big well done to Murray - I can only have admiration for your engineering and build skills
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    Because of the visibility and weight problems involved, many would only resort to the option of carrying a spare wheel on the bonnet when it is more practicable than stowing it elsewhere or not having one. However, there is an advantage of this type with frame over the standard Land Rover design that can simply just hold a wheel by the centre of the rim. Lots of other bulky things could possibly be tied to this frame when there are problems finding places to carry everything. eg Spare wheel could go in the back somewhere while something like large tarp or tent is carried on the bonnet. They could be folded and tied on in ways to mimimise reducing road visibility.

    Undoubtedly there is potential to add little bits and pieces so that items other than a spare wheel that may be regularly carried can quickly and easily be properly secured and and also eaily removed from the frame when desired. Maybe rijidij and others can develop this idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rijidij View Post

    I allowed just enough clearance for the bonnet to 'pop' and except for the extra weight, it's relatively easy for one person to open it. The new framwork gives you something easy to grab on to also.

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    Murray,
    From your pictures it looks like it mount on the car structure, not the bulbar, so it would be a standard design. If this is correct, will you manufacture these in kit form for self installation. If so I will send you an email for a quote. Cheers.
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    Interesting reading this thread, I posted over 2 years ago about this product, no one was Interested in it then.

    A company in France was the first to come up with the idea for a Pompier Defender 130.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mox View Post
    Because of the visibility and weight problems involved, many would only resort to the option of carrying a spare wheel on the bonnet when it is more practicable than stowing it elsewhere or not having one. However, there is an advantage of this type with frame over the standard Land Rover design that can simply just hold a wheel by the centre of the rim. Lots of other bulky things could possibly be tied to this frame when there are problems finding places to carry everything. eg Spare wheel could go in the back somewhere while something like large tarp or tent is carried on the bonnet. They could be folded and tied on in ways to mimimise reducing road visibility.

    Undoubtedly there is potential to add little bits and pieces so that items other than a spare wheel that may be regularly carried can quickly and easily be properly secured and and also eaily removed from the frame when desired. Maybe rijidij and others can develop this idea.
    yes like shovel holders and axes and pics that sort of thing.
    Perhaps have the ability to remove the wheel and but a low lying box in its place to hold other items for off road such as straps etc that way are easily accessible in the event of getting stuck say in a bog/water hole.

    my only issue with all of this would be as said above being pulled by the cops for having restricted vision...
    and perhaps public safety in the event of mowing someone down
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    I am super happy with the great work Murray has done for me to get this working! The 90 was handling like a pig coming over dunes with the second spare on the roof rack and i think it was just a matter of time before i rolled.
    He previously made some customer spacers to raise my seat. The spare wheel only slightly restricts my view to the centre - I can see both corners of the hood :-) I think the view was better than the army Series 3 I spent a couple of years in. Thanks Home - Rijidij Off Road

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    Quote Originally Posted by LARO View Post
    I am super happy with the great work Murray has done for me to get this working! ..............[/url]

    Well, it's always great to get feedback like that. Like all the forum members I've met through the business, Michael is a great guy and a pleasure to deal with.

    Cheers, Murray
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    Quote Originally Posted by carlschmid2002 View Post
    Murray,
    From your pictures it looks like it mount on the car structure, not the bulbar, so it would be a standard design. If this is correct, will you manufacture these in kit form for self installation. If so I will send you an email for a quote. Cheers.
    Carl
    G'day Carl,
    There are a couple of stainless steel brackets which go from the bullbar to the top of the radiator support rail, these are part of the factory bullbar stup. The wheel carrier frame is supported on these, but I welded a couple of tabs on which stick in under the bonnet to share the load with the steel rail (the one with the bonnet catch in it).
    Although the carrier frame is not actually attached to the front of the bonnet, it can't be independant of the bonnet because the frame is bolted to the bonnet hinge holes, so the tabs ensure the frame and bonnet have to both lift together.
    Ideally the weight of the frame would be all on the bullbar, but the factory bullbar is one of those soft padded types, so it's very limited as to where you can attach things solidly.
    Due to the wide variation of bullbar setups, I would not make these as a 'standard' item, but having said that, if I ever get time, I might investigate the posibility of making them independant of the bullbar by strengthening the rail in the car............repeat, if I ever get time Got a lot on at the moment.

    Cheers, Murray
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