Thread: Traction control is NO substitute for a Locker. Ha!

That's why I am currently fitting air lockers to my Series one! Front axle is in the shed at the moment then it's the backs turn.

Will suprise a few out on the tracks when it's done, plus as you say you can drive slower and go easier on the vehicle.

I was very impressed with mine the times that it has activated. I had one side in a very deep and muddy rut and I just put it in reverse and the dash lights flashed and it made like a clicking sound and I got out of it. My Patrol would ne still stuck. My GU III didn't have a rear locker, but a limited slip diff. The 90s TC works heaps better. I didn't rate the LS Diff on the Patrol at all.

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I have owned Td5 Defender with T/C and was impressed how well it worked But in saying that you can not match the positive drive of lockers front and rear , Dont be fooled by this electronic trickery Lockers will always win when used correctly and thats the secret

That track can be driven by a standard tdi 110 no lockers or traction control with minimal wheelspin. Once you learn how to get the best from your Landy you too will cream that section. A locker will always offer more positive traction than tc but don't write it off yet.
I remember my first time up that track, oh boy did I struggle!


The blue Mazda Bater 50 owner is a mate of mine

You were bottomed out on the rear diff,so you weren't going anywhere in a hurry either way !!

an old chest nit, but tyre pressures did you have?
Must agree it did struggle a bit there didn't it, however it was articulating better than anything else. Traction seemed to be working, that's why I ask what pressure.

I have found it can be a matter of 700 to 1000 revs as well. But it didn't appear you were over revving it at all.
I've been with mates in the high country, all similar pressures on Defenders, but they were working in L2 1400 to 2000 rpm, I was in L2 2500 to 3000 and spinning every where. Once I chilled and got comfortable with the Landy crawl and working the high ground with better lines, it all became quite simple and predictable really.

I agree with Isuzutoo eh, don't rush in just yet. I am more than happy where my open diffs have taken me.
However I am locking my rear next year, mostly for max traction for deepish water crossings. I have psychological disorder with regards to drowning another vehicle.

The traction control just cuts in too slow and if you look in the vid it was not even working on the front drivers wheel when it had load on it, it just would not turn the wheel, whats with that?

I thought it is supposed to stop the wheel in the air and transfer the power to the wheel under load, well that did not happen

And could someone please explain the centre diff lock for me in tech terms (and yes it was engaged) I always thought they locked the transfer case delivering even power to front and rear wheels, but I thought that was standard on the Deefers 50/50 front back or does it stop slippage between front back power distribution?

As you say, it doesn't look like TC is engaging.
Does it have TC control or CDL or both??
I don't know whats different between the D2 & Deefer but a couple of weeks ago i went up a very steep rutted track in my D2 with TC, i was amazed what the TC did, i used to tackle this hill in my old RRC with CDL & rear air locker and can honestly say i was amazed how well the TC performed.
I did have to learn to change my driving style for the TC, to let it do its job as apposed to trying to keep traction in the RRC.