Thread: OILS AIN'T OILS - R380

Prolly a lot cheaper too I guess

Originally Posted by rick130

Valvoline Duragear 75W-85

i personally found it didn't work anywhere near as well.

mr put some in my defender box during a service and the box went backwards compared to how it was 2 months earlier so i drained it and put syntrans back in it and it came good again after a few weeks.

was much better than the nulon offering tho

Originally Posted by incisor

i personally found it didn't work anywhere near as well.

mr put some in my defender box during a service and the box went backwards compared to how it was 2 months earlier so i drained it and put syntrans back in it and it came good again after a few weeks.

was much better than the nulon offering tho

JC has said they can be really idiosyncratic, some don't take to Duragear or any other MTF and they seem to like ATF, but from a wear POV I'd rather have an MTF of some description over an ATF.

I have a sneaking suspicion that mines got multitrax in it at present I can't remember it's been so long and shifts ok except first to second if I hurry it. But it's been in there a while about 6 years but not a whole lot of kilometres

Originally Posted by rick130

Valvoline Duragear 75W-85

As its GL4 could it be used in the Puma Getrag gearbox?????

Originally Posted by sashadidi

As its GL4 could it be used in the Puma Getrag gearbox?????

The BOT130 and whatever it's been superseded with are a 75W-90.

Redline MT90, Amsoil MTG and a few others fit the bill.
MTG in particular has a very good reputation in the US now for slick shifting in various gearboxes.

Castrol Syntrax and Motul Gear 300 are dual rated GL-4/5 but bronze safe and very, very good MTF's.

What about this oil which is available in New Zealand. We have a very limited choice and Castrol Bot is NZ$120 a litre!!!!!!

Fuchs Titan Sintofluid 75W-80 GL-5 MTF Synthetic - Synthetic Oil Europe
Its recommended for
FORD MSC200-C
FORD MSC200-C2
FORD MSC200-C3

as is the Castrol BOT 130
http://www.castrol.com/liveassets/bp...T_130M_TDS.pdf

I appreciate your advice

I'm not sure what's so special about BOT130, other than it's a long life fluid and I don't know whether the MT82 is so special either.

I started asking around when the gearboxes first stated appearing, Dave Ashcroft was one, and it uses conventional bronze synchro faces, etc. so I'm not sure if there really is a need for a 'special' fluid, but as far as I'm aware no one's been brave enough to run something not 'approved'.

It's supposedly a slightly different gearbox, but the MT82 used in US Mustangs has been a problem child and Ford changed the oil spec there from a 75W-90 to a 75W(80) oil for a dual clutch semi auto, similar to the Fuchs oil you've listed. (FWIW the Mustang g/box is assembled in China, and the Land Rover 'box in the UK)

The Fuchs fluid might be worth a go, they blend very good oils and NZ doesn't have the stupid high ambients we are currently experiencing here which is a further plus.