Thread: Novice recovery point/ rigging question

Originally Posted by Samblers

I’m equipping myself and my 110 for adventure - just fitted jate rings to the front, have purchased 8t snatch strap, 3m 12t tree protector (which I intend to use as an equalizer strap) and have 4.75t shackles.

Having only ever watched snatch recoveries (not been in one), I’m just wondering whether a shackle is the best method of attaching my equalizer strap to the jate rings?

Jate rings are relatively low down, and I would have thought it would be easier when stuck in sand or gloop to have each end of the equalizer strap fitted with hooks rather than shackles? Does such a hook exist?

Any thoughts?

Cheers, Sam

Sam,

I'd be a bit concerned using jate rings to recover off. They were originally designed (I believe) for tying vehicles down and don't deal well with shock loading. You'd be better off fitting rated recovery points (check out the verandah section where one of our own AULROlians makes some gooduns). Most 4wd shops have rated hooks in stock too.

It's a good idea to equalize between two recovery points - but make sure if you are snatching that you mostly dig a vehicle out before attempting. If you just bung on a snatch strap to a bogged vehicle it has the potential to far exceed the rating of a snatch strap and cause catastrophic failure of snatch straps, shackles and or bend/twist chasis. Particularly if you are bogged in mud and you get heaps of suction or in deep sand.

Having rated recovery points on the rear is also a good idea. That way if the front ones are under water or hard to get to, you can recover the vehicle backwards. I use a solid aluminium insert in the hayman reece hitch for this. Some argue though that you shouldn't recover from a tow bar. I think its fine though. Never ever use the tow ball to chuck your strap over. Snatches can potentially snap a tow ball off making it into a high speed projectile. They are not designed for shock loads either.

And I just read you're using 4.75 tonne shackles. I would use ones with at least a 6 tonne rating. In snatching I reckon you could put 4.75 tonne through a shackle. Not easily but doable.

Like these http://www.dttbolts.com.au/index.php...product_id=295

Agree with gus.

If your tow hitch is one that is well anchored to the chassis then recover off it is fine, get yourself one of the hitches that slides in in place of the tow ball hitch, they are a large block of metal with an eye and shackle.

If y ou think you are going to need the snatch up front why no pre rig it? Get your equaliser through the snatch eye and shackle it on then find somewhere up high to hold the strap back off the ground. Obviously don't want to risk running it over though. If you need to recover from the bog it can save getting very messy.

Rod

I tend to agree I thought jate rings were just tie downs as well.. probably wrong..also stronger shackles are a definite ..I use 4.5 ton rated shackles to pull my zook out of the slop..not that it gets bogged that often.

Thanks for the post

Two front jate rings, therefore two 4.75t shackles... i.e. 9.5t

I did plenty of reading on here and other forums and it seems as if jate rings are pretty popular as recovery points? There was no suggestion that they were not suitable?

Originally Posted by BigBlackDog

Agree with gus.

If your tow hitch is one that is well anchored to the chassis then recover off it is fine, get yourself one of the hitches that slides in in place of the tow ball hitch, they are a large block of metal with an eye and shackle.
Rod

I have this set-up for the rear

Originally Posted by Samblers

Thanks for the post

Two front jate rings, therefore two 4.75t shackles... i.e. 9.5t

I did plenty of reading on here and other forums and it seems as if jate rings are pretty popular as recovery points? There was no suggestion that they were not suitable?

i also thought jate rings were suitable for recovery......not that i have them fitted

i have never bothered with an equalizer strap.......keep in mine the tree protector are quite wide, i doubt you would be able to bunch it up enough to get a shackel over it......

12t tree protector is a strap about 3” wide, should get it into the shackle… it and the snatch and the shackles and the advice all came from ARB.

Yeah good point about having it all pre-rigged. I doubt I’d ever be anywhere that would require this and I’d be worried about damage to the snatch strap but definitely something to think about.

It sounds as if the hooks that I originally imagined do not exist…

You don't mean one of these (Tow Hook with Keeper - Bushranger) but hooks that go on the end of your tree protector that then hook onto your jate rings (have I still got you?). If option 2 then no, I dont think so.