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    A little help required please!

    Hey guys, I come here on bended knee asking for some advise about driving my temporarily imported defender 110 in Australia, as far as I can make out from the minefield of legislation and bureaucracy it's bloody difficult if not that then really confusing!

    Two friends and I temporarily imported two defender 110's into Australia after touring Europe, Central Asia, Mongolia and Russia needless to say the most confusing country to drive in so far has been Australia, each state/territory has different rules and regs as to the eligibility of driving a temporarily imported vehicles and I have got myself really confused as to what documents I need to drive legally.

    We shipped to Sydney and cleared AQIS with minor hiccups and a hefty cleaning bill as the Australian/Russian standards of cleaning a vehicle don't quite match up. We purchased a three month Compulsory Third Party insurance certificate and made a B-Line for Melbourne to meet up with family and a couch we could sleep on. On the way we were stopped twice by the police for driving an unregistered vehicle and in Victoria we were issued with a hefty $700 fine (which we are contesting). A couple of days later I found Marcus through this website who allowed us to park our rig out of the city in the safety of his home in Warragul whilst we work in Melbourne to pay back various family members for what has turned out to be a very expensive trip. and here we are approaching three months in Australia and with our current CTP insurance about to expire I wanted some tips or anybody's experience on the best insurers for this type of vehicle.

    Further to my first request for help I would like any information/ help on the different rules required to drive the cars through all the territories (which I intend to do!)

    Perhaps we can take the information compiled in this thread and make a guide for fellow would-be adventurers.

    Thanks in advance,
    Richard

    PS. Not sure if this thread is in the right place :S

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    track down camel landy(member on here who has toured aus for 12 months).....he will point you in the right direction

    off to find his exact user name

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    camel_landy, maybe send him a PM

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    Sorry to hear that you have been given grief. Have to say I'm a little embarrassed about your experiences. I think most Australians like to think they live in a progressive country, however I am increasingly wondering these days.

    Most road rules are the same Aus wide. Melbourne city has some odd hook turn thing. Where you turn right from the far left. It's not all intersections, and there are lanes and lights that indicate when you are safe to turn. But if you want to turn right and discover the turn lane is over a lane or two to your left then you a bit stuffed. Better to keep going.

    Western Aus has some 90Km/h max when towing a trailer. No trailer and your good for 100 in 100 zones.

    Just watch your speed in the never ending road work zones around the place. The cops like to sit just outside them and pick off speeders.
    Honestly I am surprised you have been pulled over twice. Landies are on the low interest scope to police usually, as they are slow and most drivers are quite conservative.

    good luck with your travels, I hope they only get better, lots better.
    Jason

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    G'day fourwheeltravel,

    The RMS (Roads and Maritime Services) link that ugu80 is for vehicles which are going to STAY in NSW, this link Visiting overseas vehicle < Get a new rego < Registration < www.rta.nsw.gov.au
    applies to your situation if the vehicle is only here temporarily. This relates to NSW only bear in mind.

    But if you didn't obtain the VIA mentioned, then yes, your vehicle will be deemed to be unregistered and uninsured (CTP).

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    I am very surprised, if you didn't have a Vehicle import approval, that they would have let you drive the vehicle of the docks. Customs are normally all over that sort of thing.
    I am surprised that you even got stopped. I know people that have driven overseas registered vehicles around in australia for years and never been stopped.
    (I think the rules have changed about how long you can keep the vehicle here for)

    State rules don't matter in this case because it is a federal department (department of infrastructure and transport) that decides if a vehicle can be brought into australia.
    84' 120" ute - 3.9 isuzu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wovenrovings View Post

    State rules don't matter in this case because it is a federal department (department of infrastructure and transport) that decides if a vehicle can be brought into australia.
    It becomes state based though (whatever state he is stopped in) if he hasn't complied with the requirements of the VIA, and as I said, the vehicle is then deemed unreg/uninsured. Even if he has the CTP on hand, if he hasn't complied with the VIA the vehicle IS unregistered and uninsured because the CTP only takes effect when the registration is current. This is also the case When a person is stopped where the vehicle registration has expired, but they have already purchased their green slip (CTP) it makes no difference as the green slip only takes effect when the registration is paid. I am only relating this to New South Wales. I'm not sure how the other states rego/ins still operate, I think most still pay both to their relevant road dept, Vicroads etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cracka View Post
    G'day fourwheeltravel,

    The RMS (Roads and Maritime Services) link that ugu80 is for vehicles which are going to STAY in NSW, this link Visiting overseas vehicle < Get a new rego < Registration < www.rta.nsw.gov.au
    applies to your situation if the vehicle is only here temporarily. This relates to NSW only bear in mind.

    But if you didn't obtain the VIA mentioned, then yes, your vehicle will be deemed to be unregistered and uninsured (CTP).
    Thanks for the responses! I am still unclear as to why I would need a VIA if I have already driven the vehicle out of the docks with a carnet de passage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wovenrovings View Post
    I am surprised that you even got stopped.
    Our numberplate flashes up on all the detection devices as a 'fake' registration because it doesn't exist on any Australian Police computer. So they follow ofr a bit and then pull us over.

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